Post AnIuCbLSAQua7BboIq by 7666@comp.lain.la
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 (DIR) Post #AnGqJW7DDmcVn14P0C by kelvin0mql@mastodon.hams.social
       2024-10-21T19:54:14Z
       
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       @jima If ipv6 requires decent-career-level of expertise, it's not for me.So far, nothing has come up that has made me need nor want to touch ipv6, and I'm hopeful it will remain that way until I die.That is, if I HAVE to use ipv6, I hope it's someone else's problem, and free/transparent to me.
       
 (DIR) Post #AnGqJX2HnaH2e1lyxk by kasperd@westergaard.social
       2024-10-21T20:34:23.348989Z
       
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       IPv6 is simpler than IPv4. If you run everything as IPv6 it's so nice to work with.The only hard problem you will face is people who refuse do do IPv6, and suddenly you end up with a load of crap to work around lack of IPv6 and shortcomings of IPv4.IPv6 is not to blame for those problems as they only show up where IPv6 is missing.
       
 (DIR) Post #AnIsnSPu7p6VEN8ZcG by 7666@comp.lain.la
       2024-10-23T16:34:08.559552Z
       
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       @kasperd @kelvin0mql @jima >IPv6 is simpler than IPv4This breaks apart when I'm trying to remember any internal IP address and can't get past fe80. And god forbid if there's double colons in the middle somewhere or you're trying to remember the /64 prefix you were given by an upstream...Usability just ain't great. Publishing IPv6 externally is fine but you'll be doing 6 to 4 NAT if you don't fully route IPv6 internally to all your devices and now it gets nastier if you can't just do the translation there and only there. I'm planning to just add quad A records at my edge and NAT it back to an IPv4 internal IP wherever it needs to go because at least I can remember those and I have that option.
       
 (DIR) Post #AnIthLh4JCfyb0ohvs by get@the.asbestos.cafe
       2024-10-23T16:44:38.202564Z
       
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       @7666 @kelvin0mql @kasperd can't remember ipv6 addresses in your head, sounds like a skill issue 👬
       
 (DIR) Post #AnIu9ysSDbSQEKnMbw by Nimbius666@comp.lain.la
       2024-10-23T16:37:40.794940Z
       
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       @7666 @kasperd @jima @kelvin0mql you need slaac +dhcpv6 then its easy since DNS is updated automatically and the IP allocation never changes for your servers that dont have a privacy flag set for their NDP.
       
 (DIR) Post #AnIuA0FX7HVqUCbJDs by 7666@comp.lain.la
       2024-10-23T16:49:25.232677Z
       
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       @Nimbius666 @jima @kasperd @kelvin0mql Externally I have a big python script that manages my DNS for me based on network conditions, the poor man's Route 53. Internally everything is static because configs and firewall rules are pinned to IPv4 /32's or /29's so they're not going to change. Even if I did do IPv6 internally, I'd still have to do 6 to 6 NAT because I believe I have a single (/128) at each edge, and tunnelling in other providers (e.g HE) would be a ludicrous amount of effort to fix something that isn't broken.
       
 (DIR) Post #AnIuCbLSAQua7BboIq by 7666@comp.lain.la
       2024-10-23T16:50:05.755025Z
       
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       @get @kelvin0mql @kasperd I'm gonna turn you into dead beef(this is an ipv6 / hexadecimal joke)
       
 (DIR) Post #AnIwhSWlCVhbeXjuNc by 7666@comp.lain.la
       2024-10-23T17:17:50.188389Z
       
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       @jima @kasperd @kelvin0mql Memorizing the 16 characters of a /64 is basically a password. I already memorize 16 and 20 character passwords enough as it is. IPv4 can be memorized by four numbers (nobody remembers the individual characters of an IPv4 octet, 192 is a single token, not 1, 9, 2), with any CIDR notation at /24 or below making it even easier. I can  remember 198.251.81.0/24 and 198.251.82.0/24 easy. Throw characters in there and each letter becomes its own token, and then make it up to 32 of these blasted things.As for addressing, yes, you still get a specific address in IPv6 for endpoints, you have to refer to something specific to call it. If i want to put IPv6 on an iDRAC you can't just say "oh it's somewhere in that /72 you carved out!". It has an address. If you start making cutesy little games out of your addresses to solve this, the problem gets *worse*, not better.
       
 (DIR) Post #AnIxpBTiZYv52yZ1Jw by 7666@comp.lain.la
       2024-10-23T17:30:26.853024Z
       
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       @jima @kasperd @kelvin0mql I also CAN stick bamboo under my fingernails, I just don't WANT to.Completely irrelevant statement, especially when the topic here is usability.
       
 (DIR) Post #AnIyaxzM1wC76q96rQ by 7666@comp.lain.la
       2024-10-23T17:39:05.298892Z
       
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       @jima @kasperd @kelvin0mql You should see the instance name too while you're at it.