Post AnFb9iccAtaPDAfU6S by LordCaramac@discordian.social
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(DIR) Post #AnF9zjWFHogAKtheLo by foone@digipres.club
2024-10-21T21:27:56Z
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Anyone got a line on how many computers Apple shipped in their PowerPC era? that's 1994-2006, 12 years. I want to know how many in total they sold.
(DIR) Post #AnFAL6lI490OVFvsG0 by foone@digipres.club
2024-10-21T21:31:50Z
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this says in 2006 they sold 4.5 million computers, and implies that this is a recent high.so... 12*4.5 = 54 million as a guess at an upper bound?https://www.forbes.com/forbes/2006/0130/043.html
(DIR) Post #AnFAXnXgpmkQeyccoy by chunter@mstdn.social
2024-10-21T21:34:06Z
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@foone you need charts like thishttps://www.statista.com/statistics/276308/global-apple-mac-sales-since-fiscal-year-2002/
(DIR) Post #AnFAn0f4L9xrgwKKkC by foone@digipres.club
2024-10-21T21:36:54Z
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okay lets be generous and say that number is way too low and they sold twice as many, at 108 million powerPC computers.
(DIR) Post #AnFBA9cBDZJ07X0my8 by foone@digipres.club
2024-10-21T21:41:04Z
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So here's the fun thing:The Nintendo Wii sold 101 million consoles.The Xbox 360 sold over 81 million consoles. The Nintendo Gamecube and Wii U add another 21 million and 14 million consoles.All those consoles are PowerPC!WHICH MEANS that Apple only managed to ship enough PowerPC Macs to about match the Nintendo Wii. And all three PowerPC Nintendo consoles easily outsold all PowerPC macs.So if you had a PowerPC chip in your house, it was most likely Nintendo's fault, not Apple's.
(DIR) Post #AnFBPi5bKBdDNwBtfE by ShadowInTheVoid@topspicy.social
2024-10-21T21:43:52Z
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@foone the PS3 was also powerpc based
(DIR) Post #AnFBWyuXBHktaDTvWq by Datenegassie@mastodon.gamedev.place
2024-10-21T21:45:11Z
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@foone Can confirm (or corroborate to be more accurate):I have 2 Nintendo PowerPCs and 0 Apple PowerPCs
(DIR) Post #AnFBc5u8benIimjaQC by 6a62@raru.re
2024-10-21T21:46:05Z
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@foone how dare you forget about my beloved PlayStation 387 million consoles, it just about outsold the Xbox 360
(DIR) Post #AnFBwBVPUVMjsukQro by ozzelot@mstdn.social
2024-10-21T21:49:44Z
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@foone I have most of the aforementioned PowerPCs (lack the Gamecube, although I do group the Wii with that).Also, my Turris 1.1 router is PowerPC. This toot goes from me to you through a PowerPC. That's guaranteed.
(DIR) Post #AnFC3dF4lWoPw2euY4 by HybridElephant@musicians.today
2024-10-21T21:51:06Z
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@foone well, i bought three of them during those years. two for my job, and one for personal use. 😉
(DIR) Post #AnFCCXnCOe61dirxNA by luisfcorreia@mastodon.social
2024-10-21T21:52:39Z
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@foone hat means I have several, from Nintendo (3) but also Apple (1)
(DIR) Post #AnFCZGRd3t2sUqc7s0 by foone@digipres.club
2024-10-21T21:56:49Z
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oh and another 87 million PS3s. forgot those
(DIR) Post #AnFDT8TVsanhzo8XjM by mwfc@chaos.social
2024-10-21T22:06:51Z
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@fooneI would blame printer companies. They still have ppc ;)
(DIR) Post #AnFDengH19bMykfRUu by montyontherun@bitbang.social
2024-10-21T22:09:00Z
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@foone joke is on you - got both a PowerMac G4 and a Wii. Apparently, both use reasonably similar CPUs.TBF, only got the Wii because I got a bit over excited with my good results on PPC."It was a birthday present to my wife".I did get some Zelda games for her, to sweeten the deal, but I end up doing much more homebrew on it then her going thru Hyrule.
(DIR) Post #AnFDhGKFUJtUOkXVuS by likesoldmacs@bitbang.social
2024-10-21T22:09:10Z
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@foone can confirm. I have 107 million of them upstairs
(DIR) Post #AnFDqzGXlqDqNsRZLs by bbech@mastodon.social
2024-10-21T22:11:14Z
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@foone this looks like a job for @ismh86.
(DIR) Post #AnFIY4lNbh6FhcfWT2 by atomicbird@mastodon.social
2024-10-21T23:03:45Z
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@foone I think even that probably overstates Apple's share of PowerPC sales. They switched to Intel partly because IBM's PowerPC roadmap didn't fit Apple's needs, and Apple's sales were too small for IBM to care. Besides the game systems there were tons of embedded applications, which is why the old CodeWarrior IDE for Macs ended up dropping Mac support for embedded development.
(DIR) Post #AnFJ40PXKA6nTFg2JU by foone@digipres.club
2024-10-21T23:09:32Z
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@montyontherun yeah I had both too. Mine was a G3 though
(DIR) Post #AnFJYGJMlrrLTNDb9M by Computeum@mastodon.bayern
2024-10-21T23:14:59Z
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@foone Dimilar calculations can be made for MOS' 6500 series.The most sold 6500 computer the C64 totalled 12.5 m according to Michael Steil. Even tripling that to account for floppy drives makes it less than 40 m. Let's make it 50 to include all other 6502 based Commodore.Famicom/NES alone sold 62m, SNES adding another 50m. Ataris 2600 only adds a mere 30m. So yes, chances are good that a 6500 in your house is a console ... except:WDC claims:"Annual volumes in the hundreds (100's) of millions of units keep adding in a significant way to the estimated shipped volumes of five (5) to ten (10) billion units."A number dwarfing all consoles combined.Bottom line, in average every human on this planes owns a 6500, withotu knowing about.
(DIR) Post #AnFMidE0jWkPIRLjcG by deBaer@23.social
2024-10-21T23:50:32Z
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@foone Don't forget the 90 million PS3s. Even though Sony chose some bullshit terms to describe the architecture, it was basically a PowerPC 970 (called G5 by Apple).
(DIR) Post #AnFNBjs76EjOJDzEa8 by pistonminer@chaos.social
2024-10-21T23:55:42Z
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@foone fault -> merit :3
(DIR) Post #AnFNGjAD9xoHYppYBs by bx@tiny.tilde.website
2024-10-21T23:56:38Z
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@foone its very fun to see this w PPC, ive often thought abt it for MIPS with gur n64/ps1/ps2/psp (and sorta ps3 since afaik it has gur ps1 cpu), im p sure that on average gur most likely MIPS machine in homes during gur 2000s was a games console (or maybe a router if you had one)
(DIR) Post #AnFQDpY9GA7KMQKxYO by yakkoj@fosstodon.org
2024-10-22T00:29:39Z
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@foone some of my PowerPCs are Cisco's fault (I think my 2811 and 2600s are PowerPC, if only some oddball SOC)Of course I have a 2511, which has 68030 and can trace its vintage back to Cisco's first product.
(DIR) Post #AnFQxcYftUQFOBPy1g by rasterweb@mastodon.social
2024-10-22T00:37:57Z
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@foone At least one of mine was from Power Computing Corporation.
(DIR) Post #AnFY6v9qoGfhMOBjhw by min1123@allthingstech.social
2024-10-22T01:58:06Z
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@foone don’t forget all the Freescale/NXP embedded devices. Tons of SCADA devices/early IoT/controllers all run Book-E PPC embedded stuff. I’m not terrifically happy that NXP seems more interested in their ARM portfolio at the expense of the POWER QUICC and other early embedded SoCs.
(DIR) Post #AnFb9iccAtaPDAfU6S by LordCaramac@discordian.social
2024-10-22T02:32:08Z
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@foone I used to own a Powerbook G4 12", but I have never owened any video game console other than an XBox (the original one which was just called XBox, nothing more), and that one I modded to run Linux so I could use it as a server and media centre/living-room PC. I'm not into console games at all, I only play computer games, the ones you control via keyboard and mouse. Mostly ones that don't need you to be quick and react immediately or get killed, but ones where you need to take your time to think. Puzzle games. Point&click adventure games. Turn-based strategy games. Computer versions of board games. That kind of stuff.
(DIR) Post #AnFoi2Eb3pHZHy7xxY by gkrnours@mastodon.gamedev.place
2024-10-22T05:04:07Z
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@foone is there instruction to install a linux on a wii?
(DIR) Post #AnFxvOIJFkZb3gJ7pY by th@social.v.st
2024-10-22T06:47:10Z
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@foone retro georg who has ten thousand ppc era macs is an outlier and should not have been be counted.
(DIR) Post #AnFzx0qHcNF4oK6E1w by klendool@mastodon.xyz
2024-10-22T07:10:04Z
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@foone don't forget 85 million Xbox 360s
(DIR) Post #AnGcNAs4kXrlhaq7tI by rkarman@mastodon.world
2024-10-22T14:20:36Z
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@foone Given that Apple barely registered on the "PC" market share during that time (2-4% depending on which source you use), with the smallest "big" player selling around 3-5M/year during the latter half of the 90's, I think you're being way too generous here. I'd say it's likely to be below your first estimate of ~50, probably in the 30-40 range...Also note the article stating that the 4.5M units in 2006 is an increase of 38% over 2005.
(DIR) Post #AnGhANNNRfJMUXCIqm by Sconient@hackaday.social
2024-10-22T15:14:18Z
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@foone PowerPC is still common in aerospace. Even new devices will still use what are essentially the same chips as came in Macs in the late 90's and early 00's.