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(DIR) Post #AlWPDBpx4GaKwJoaP2 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-08-31T09:24:41Z
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In my day we had buttons. We had switches! Sliders!And what do we have now? Glass rounded rectangles of various sizes. "We can make it do haptic feedback."No just put me out of my misery. Send me to the farm upstate. Your haptic feedback is a mockery of the elegance of the latching switches and potentiometers I have known. Robotics is hard. Mechanical engineering is hard. The glass rounded rectangles are magical, yes, and lovely, but they also prisons for the imagination.
(DIR) Post #AlWPRKDIijlYyPTbPs by mensrea@freeradical.zone
2024-08-31T09:27:13Z
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@futurebird also web UI elements that are not just flat blocks of colour that give you no indication of what they do
(DIR) Post #AlWPXuJRPz6WfbUGdE by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-08-31T09:28:26Z
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@mensrea I recently saw an android tablet OS and it looks so much like iOS it made me sad. Like everyone has given up. There is only one way and it's rounded rectangles all the way down.
(DIR) Post #AlWQBQ3XKY84Pkt9zE by mensrea@freeradical.zone
2024-08-31T09:35:34Z
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@futurebird on the web there is a growing movement to bring back some fun, interest and a bit of skeuomorphism. but hardware controls are a thing that need to make a comeback. like i think no car should have touch screen controls, or touch should be disabled while the car is in motion
(DIR) Post #AlWQcKw8TKtqM7GJfM by joncounts@mastodon.nz
2024-08-31T09:40:23Z
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@futurebird @mensrea I agree, although it’s a little ironic that I’m liking this from an iPad. Still, I spent all day taking over a thousand photos in a national park using three cameras, and none of them were with my smart phone even though it was in my pocket. Buttons and dials remain the best interface for cameras, by far.
(DIR) Post #AlWQsjxNDTAoaSfAI4 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-08-31T09:43:26Z
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@joncounts @mensrea I love my DSLR. The only thing I like better about my phone is that I always have my phone with me. Lets me get photos I might otherwise miss. Spend all my days with the "glass rectangles" of various sizes-- but I still get frustrated when every design problem is quickly turned into an app.
(DIR) Post #AlWR9pGoiIxvzQu97g by rysiek@mstdn.social
2024-08-31T09:46:28Z
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@futurebird these touchscreen interfaces are really pushing my buttons
(DIR) Post #AlWRgcFi8P3PAj1T9M by wa7iut@mastodon.radio
2024-08-31T09:52:16Z
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@futurebird I miss my Blackberry because of the keyboard it had. Also, I love the click/clacky of my desktop keyboards, all using Cherry MX keys.https://www.cherry-world.com/company/about-us
(DIR) Post #AlWS8rCk8W5rea6K7k by HumainVirtuel@mastodon.social
2024-08-31T09:57:32Z
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@futurebird vibrators
(DIR) Post #AlWSCLNsNzLI7eyGSu by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-08-31T09:58:10Z
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@HumainVirtuel That's the last straw. "there is an app for that" has gone too far.
(DIR) Post #AlWSOCFSB8KTGNgPse by Johns_priv@mastodon.social
2024-08-31T10:00:11Z
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@futurebird And why wouldn't we use one of our senses (touch).If I'm driving the feel of the buttons and switches gives me way more information than any stupid haptic system would.Why would we stop using a whole fucking sense of the five we have?The whole thing is bonkers
(DIR) Post #AlWShTeFi5DKjLTawS by jwcph@helvede.net
2024-08-31T10:03:46Z
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@futurebird With you all the way!! I hate touch interfacing with the fire of a thousand angry suns... 🤬
(DIR) Post #AlWVWoranAF7CmKFVY by hmwilker@social.tchncs.de
2024-08-31T10:35:28Z
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@futurebird Oh, yes. The feel of inertia when turning a well-made potentiometer…
(DIR) Post #AlWXVXnQxf3DtJtrv6 by CynthesisToday@sfba.social
2024-08-31T10:57:39Z
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@futurebird And, increasingly for us older folks, unresponsive. With age comes less moisture in the fingertips. Plus a lifetime of regular typing changes fingertip skin density-- calluses. Yes, 50+ years in tech most at a keyboard of some type creates fingertip calluses. Getting a response from a touch surface has become more difficult. Sometimes I have to touch something damp before touching a surface interface to get a response. Sometimes my thenar eminence is required to get any response-- not very precise.I wonder if musicians have a similar problem?
(DIR) Post #AlWbXcONFEnyXaQHzc by EevaXTiina@mastodon.social
2024-08-31T11:42:49Z
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@futurebird Absolutely agree with you. Touchscreen tech should not be everywhere. For example kitchen should be glass rounded rectangle free zone - for the obvious reason that we use grease/oil in that area. Last year I worked hard to found oven and stove with proper switches. A friend of mine negotiates her oven with a piece of paper towel, poor dear.
(DIR) Post #AlWeDyUheyGZ9yhyng by llewelly@sauropods.win
2024-08-31T12:12:54Z
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@futurebird what do they mean "we can make it do haptic feedback"?Haptic, by definition, refers to something you feel. If you can't feel anything but unmoving glass or plastic, it's not haptic feedback.
(DIR) Post #AlWgYNlFcyDdDwJ756 by chrisamaphone@hci.social
2024-08-31T12:38:57Z
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@futurebird you might like this zine https://www.sparkfun.com/products/25433
(DIR) Post #AlWid12hinmk7Uo9zc by dpp@mastodon.social
2024-08-31T13:02:13Z
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@futurebird @catsalad 💯 agreeMy fingers knew the location of every button in my Saab 9000
(DIR) Post #AlWjLrReFhZ7NtrKpk by rejzor@mastodon.world
2024-08-31T13:10:18Z
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@futurebird Depends. Smartphone with all touch display is great. AC and entertainment controls in a car, give me physical buttons I can fondle without ever looking at them. Same goes for appliances like laundry machines. People hate touch nonsense, especially elderly just can't get around them and it seems manufacturers are entirely out of touch in car world as well as appliances.
(DIR) Post #AlWlCQIi0JtQV5IzXk by MartyFouts@mastodon.online
2024-08-31T13:31:03Z
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@futurebird Be careful what you ask for. My TV has real buttons; except they are all on the remote. Not even a power switch on the TV. Sigh.
(DIR) Post #AlWnRPbR55wYaVL7ZY by pomCountyIrregs@mstdn.social
2024-08-31T13:56:04Z
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@futurebird Don’t know if it will happen in my lifetime—I’m in the last third of my 60s—but I suspect a new Arts & Crafts movement is a-coming.Here’s my report from the land of lower-priced guitar amplifiers. There are knobs. But the knobs are controllers and a clockwise turn increases a numeric value and counter-clockwise decreases. They don’t stop turning when at the minimum or maximum point. The amps are lighter and, inflation adjusted, cheaper than 40 years ago. But I miss a hard 10.
(DIR) Post #AlWnT8Vnb00oA0Wd8q by LordCaramac@discordian.social
2024-08-31T13:56:19Z
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@futurebird Unless we somehow find some magic force fields that can mimic any kind of texture, touchscreen interfaces will always be worse that physical controls when it comes to precision and ease of use. They do have those force fields on the starship Enterprise, of course. All the screens on Star Trek canonically come with force to fields that make you feel all the virtual buttons and sliders.
(DIR) Post #AlWx05VyevPK0bOcgi by cainmark@mstdn.social
2024-08-31T15:43:18Z
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@futurebird @mensrea I never understood the rounded rectangle thing. Seemed pointless. Still find I prefer 1990s web design, especially without Java and Javascript.
(DIR) Post #AlX5DYE41SWMS6wpdo by LeonianUniverse@dragonscave.space
2024-08-31T17:15:21Z
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@futurebird I actually kinda agree, especially on appliances for the house, like, not every machine needs to have an App to run it or a touch screen. I hope we return to buttons and switches one day.
(DIR) Post #AlX9dPwRqReI6bIWbA by hairylarry@gamerplus.org
2024-08-31T18:04:48Z
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@futurebird That's why I like my Zoom digital Deck. Buttons, sliders, pots. I understand these things.
(DIR) Post #AlXHc7y3z9hrhhwuSO by evilk@mastodon.social
2024-08-31T19:34:10Z
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@futurebird
(DIR) Post #AlXJKtZqR5p23dX2nI by rehana@mastodon.social
2024-08-31T19:53:35Z
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@futurebird I am impressed with how much the haptic feedback feels like pressing a button. But it doesn't help at all with finding the button before you press it.
(DIR) Post #AlXPaLgqnIsVJjYpns by pdkoenig@mstdn.social
2024-08-31T21:03:30Z
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@futurebird If they ever stop making arcade buttons, interactive exhibits in museums are doomed. Those things are just about perfection.
(DIR) Post #AlXZbWuHZkNBw72sBU by apophis@brain.worm.pink
2024-08-31T21:39:04.525062Z
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@futurebird after posting this https://brain.worm.pink/notice/AlVXRJZ5Qg8XOCvW9Q it occurred to me how aliens/successors looking through our layers of e-waste (somehow in chronological order? maybe they're deep chthonians digging their way up) would find all these buttons and gizmos of dazzling variety of aesthetics and ergonomicsthen a flood of nothing but little black rectanglesi can't imagine them *not* panicking and sealing off the cave entrance thinking that our civilization had been wiped out by some kind of grey goo disaster
(DIR) Post #AlYsMxsj5scbXb2u36 by aburka@hachyderm.io
2024-09-01T14:00:30Z
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@futurebird I guess if they made a new version of the Bop-it toy it would just be an inert glass rectangle that doesn't do anything :(
(DIR) Post #AlYsZoYl43DEOSpi4m by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-09-01T14:03:09Z
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@aburka Swipe it!Tap it!Pinch it!Get Face-Scanned!Wow!
(DIR) Post #AlYvrGXUadDZxLFoMi by Professor_Stevens@mastodon.gamedev.place
2024-09-01T14:39:53Z
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@futurebird Stuff like this is getting more popular all the time.https://www.amazon.com/BEACN-submixes-Creators-Streaming-Podcasting/dp/B09DJL6CBV
(DIR) Post #AlYxWCQks1tx2ZBXuK by memory@m.blank.org
2024-09-01T14:58:27Z
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@futurebird we’re not even, IMO, doing a particularly good job of exploring the UI possibilities of the glass rectangle!I realize that this makes me a dinosaur, but I think the UI language of iOS 7 and onwards was a horrific mistake. Skeuomorphism isn’t something to be avoided, quite the opposite! If the UI doesn’t suggest its own use, what are you even doing?