Post Al38gpGeDCKWpB0ebQ by drmambobob@ecoevo.social
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(DIR) Post #Al1UVEfjk2Lyoehfvc by scottjenson@social.coop
2024-08-16T01:51:20Z
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In our little elite tech bubble, we can have lots of opinions. But I'm finding it interesting that how #gAI is being used is now, apparently, showing up as consumer backlashhttps://www.cnn.com/2024/08/10/business/brands-avoid-term-customers/index.html
(DIR) Post #Al1V3IyCGk27zVaEvA by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-08-16T11:34:03Z
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@scottjenson “One of the reasons why people are not willing to use AI devices or technologies is fear of the unknown,”But, just before that the article says that consumers didn't like google AI results because they were sometimes incorrect ... making it unreliable. That's not "fear of the unknown" it's not liking something that doesn't work. This is my own issue with AI... the results just aren't that great.
(DIR) Post #Al1XA43qIYaRgfZikq by mensrea@freeradical.zone
2024-08-16T09:43:26Z
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@ehurtley what productive uses have you come across for LLMs? cause so far i haven't seen any @boelder @scottjenson
(DIR) Post #Al1XA55IUdLQrTGOf2 by scottjenson@social.coop
2024-08-16T11:27:45Z
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@mensrea @ehurtley @boelder There are a LOT. Please keep in mind I have lots of issues with both the energy and ethical issues with present LLMs (and I hope they will eventually be fixed) But I've found them very useful for programming, especially small little throw away prototypes. I've also found them helpful for creative writing, not the final output but for creating a range of alternatives for me to pick from.
(DIR) Post #Al1XA5uLQqB5Pn9AEC by drmambobob@ecoevo.social
2024-08-16T11:57:46Z
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@scottjenson @mensrea @ehurtley @boelder How do you use LLMs in your creative writing process?
(DIR) Post #Al1XLIxDGaQf3wplgm by drmambobob@ecoevo.social
2024-08-16T11:59:50Z
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@scottjenson @mensrea @ehurtley @boelder What sort of alternatives do LLMs give you in your creative writing process - and not to be too blunt but can you call that creative if it is being generated by a computer?
(DIR) Post #Al1XoUf2orMllkFof2 by hanktank61@NerdJoy.social
2024-08-16T12:04:59Z
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@futurebird @scottjenson I had a few tries with simple questions, it came back with some sort of Reply Guy answers..A good movie, a good book, a good painting: Sometimes somebody gives a hint, or you discover the hidden clue, almost another dimension , by yourself."Between The Lines".I don't think any AI robot can see that other dimension.Or create something like it.Just mimicking .
(DIR) Post #Al1c2eyXfOnxd6Ntfk by mike@sauropods.win
2024-08-16T12:52:24Z
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@futurebird @scottjenson It's fear of the answer being unknown TO THE AI.
(DIR) Post #Al1cwT2PEnlcp2nq40 by a_phlaming_phoenix@mastodon.social
2024-08-16T13:02:28Z
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@futurebird @scottjenson It's also extremely compute-inefficient. It's the most expensive way to get something done half as well as a professional could do it, and its inaccurayte means you soon need a professional.
(DIR) Post #Al1yMOk1vrIm41Phy4 by scottjenson@social.coop
2024-08-16T17:02:18Z
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@drmambobob @mensrea @ehurtley @boelder not to be too blunt but have you tried it? I think you're romanticizing the creative process. There are lots of very little things that llms can help with that don't remove the human from the creative loop. I'm still skeptical mind you. Just saying you're being a bit strong.
(DIR) Post #Al2FLfn8kkgnsK6me0 by drmambobob@ecoevo.social
2024-08-16T20:12:55Z
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@scottjenson @mensrea @ehurtley @boelder No, I haven’t tried it, and I’m not interested. I’d rather spend time struggling through my own variations to refine my ideas. I find the whole process helps me organise my thoughts and present arguments that are coherent and consistent with what’s in my head. It’s not romanticising, I find externally generated starting points and frameworks restricting.
(DIR) Post #Al2jFbkHse7YDKnXQO by scottjenson@social.coop
2024-08-17T01:47:57Z
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@drmambobob @mensrea @ehurtley @boelder You do realize you could use that same argument to never use laptops and mobile phones right? Using a pen and paper actually is far better creatively than using any digital device. But that doesn't mean (and I assume this applies to you as well) that there aren't uses for computers?
(DIR) Post #Al38gpGeDCKWpB0ebQ by drmambobob@ecoevo.social
2024-08-17T06:33:01Z
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@scottjenson @mensrea @ehurtley @boelder I disagree. Those things don’t generate words that are linked with thoughts.
(DIR) Post #Al3d94PiUO7kX6dSlc by scottjenson@social.coop
2024-08-17T12:14:12Z
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@drmambobob @mensrea @ehurtley @boelder Look, I don't want to be snarky or disrespectful here. There are lots of reasons to be skeptical, no #generativeAI fanboi-ism here.However, I am saying that throwing EVERYTHING out just because some stupid people have overhyped this is short sighted. The sky is already falling on #LLMs, the bubble is bursting, but there will be very powerful uses of this tech.
(DIR) Post #Al3uSB9BNSdu8fbDai by drmambobob@ecoevo.social
2024-08-17T15:28:13Z
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@scottjenson @mensrea @ehurtley @boelder I’m not throwing everything out. There’s a big difference between ai-assisted tools like grammar suggestions, spell checking, calendar suggestions, or photography tools, and generative ai. Even with the latter I’m not talking about generating text for mindless menial tasks like standard email replies or filling out forms, but about creative writing.
(DIR) Post #Al3vk1tQceq2bXJ2uG by scottjenson@social.coop
2024-08-17T15:42:38Z
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@drmambobob Well, in my case, I used LLMs to help my writing quite a bit. I research everything from quotes, historical notes, books, and trends. But it's the ability to ask it incredibly vague questions and get surprisingly helpful replies that I found most useful. I use it like a thesaurus/encyclopedia with an astoundingly helpful index. I don't think it's "killing my creativity" in any way. In fact, it's magnifying it. Of course I validate anything it says, that's fairly trivial to do.