Post Al1aTrKJeZwFqYPXKC by nf3xn@mastodon.social
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(DIR) Post #Al1YjHl9SXMsGJBuW8 by stux@mstdn.social
2024-08-16T12:15:13Z
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Can we maybe also stop with bs like: "Greatest country in the world"There is no "greatest" country in the world, every country has issues one way or anotherInstead of acting like everything is wonderful and lying to yourself, recognize the issues in the country and fix them
(DIR) Post #Al1YvfLVajBitB6HAm by sortius@mastodon.social
2024-08-16T12:17:28Z
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@stux it all comes down to Manifest Destiny
(DIR) Post #Al1Zf4pzf1CGyu0s0e by thematic@mastodon.green
2024-08-16T12:25:41Z
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@stux Countries are cringe.
(DIR) Post #Al1aSusexFLyZz1dAG by john@sauropods.win
2024-08-16T12:34:45Z
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@stux depends what you mean by greatness. The United States is the probably the most powerful and influential political state to ever exist:https://acoup.blog/2022/07/08/collections-is-the-united-states-exceptional/Nationalists are often talking about that sort of greatness, which is essentially power.
(DIR) Post #Al1aTrKJeZwFqYPXKC by nf3xn@mastodon.social
2024-08-16T12:34:47Z
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@stux No? Objectively some countries are greater than others therefore there must be a greatest and a worst, and that is not to say that all countries do not have their problems, clearly the ones with more problems than the others are the less great ones. It could be tied and we can argue about the parameters. There might be a subjective element to it when you get past the level of "my country is trying to kill me".
(DIR) Post #Al1cE2f7wKleHKjMQa by SebastienK@mastodon.social
2024-08-16T12:54:26Z
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@stux That's BS! Belgium is the greatest country in the world šš
(DIR) Post #Al1cfEp0q6SzoEK3ua by shadow@everythingbagel.social
2024-08-16T12:59:14Z
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@stux https://video.everythingbagel.me/videos/embed/97f15384-2186-49bd-94d4-89a205bc7248
(DIR) Post #Al1eXw6YEMPFdlAjDc by Pepijn@mastodon.online
2024-08-16T13:20:28Z
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@john Gosh. I forgot about that! Late '22 that bit of writing was frequently shared (by very proud Americans) in a well moderated history subreddit I used to visit.People got really tired explaining how a lot of his cherry picking made for great writing but not for great history. Mostly as the people posting would often come from pro-Trump places and be very argumentative.Mods eventually banned his blog due to the "colorful fact management" not belonging in a history subreddit.@stux
(DIR) Post #Al1eaZqxPxNXUt8agK by WTL@mastodon.social
2024-08-16T13:20:26Z
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@stux I really dislike nationalistic speech like this, no matter what country it's talking about. It's fine to recognize our collective successes, but we all have so much more work to do.
(DIR) Post #Al1gn6SsC6ru1VyNsW by john@sauropods.win
2024-08-16T13:45:19Z
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@Pepijn @stux Iām no expert on this particular question, but historians always complain about chery-picking, especially when talking about very broad topics. Because everything is infinitely complex, and the closer you look, the more complex it gets.I donāt think anyone could seriously argue that the USA hasnāt been an exceptionally powerful force over the last 150 years or so.
(DIR) Post #Al1i10F6E04cjZiplY by Curtolian@mastodon.social
2024-08-16T13:59:21Z
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@stux āGreatnessā in a country is impossible to objectively define, let alone measure, so any ranking is inherently meaningless and is generally a deflective activity.
(DIR) Post #Al1iqAjwxFUw3oYGEj by Pepijn@mastodon.online
2024-08-16T14:08:35Z
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@john Sure. But that's not what he claims. He claims greatness and labels random facts as great without saying why :-)Stuff like (iirc) "the US is the most tech advanced country to have ever been" (many hegemonies were) and "the US constitution is the oldest" (even if, why don't amendments count, and how is this a great thing) / "the US is the oldest democracy" (my American high school teacher already laughed at that in the 90s).It's probably fun to read for nationalists.@stux
(DIR) Post #Al1qXLdV1EE9z84M6q by Amimoregore@mas.to
2024-08-16T15:34:42Z
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@stux https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxv6qXs5UBZERUVnP3-mwqN-dT7xvE2gFe?si=OkieHbeKO6mPdDkn
(DIR) Post #Al24YYafjs3ToIDY9I by lywyn@mstdn.social
2024-08-16T18:11:56Z
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@stux dear country please come back and brag when you do no homeless people.