Post AkakxisRO1c0bNKisC by MarkAB@mastodon.world
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(DIR) Post #AkadrYOOkuLAfTOOFE by stux@mstdn.social
2024-08-03T12:35:34Z
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It kinda feels like we are at an impossible to task to "make things more fair", politicians are throwing things up like "tax cuts" that only benefit the ultra rich, like always, talk about "tips" and how that should not be taxes?The solution is quite fcking simple:- INCREASE THE MINIMUM WAGE ⚠️ - TAX THE RICH (SO MUUCH)⚠️ THAT is how we make things more fair in the economy and not with bullshit laws that are only made for the wealthy!Again, what do I know. I'm only human no politician
(DIR) Post #AkaeC8fXaeEIy9E67M by stux@mstdn.social
2024-08-03T12:39:17Z
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And STOP with bullshit excuses like:"Yeaaaahh... but if we tax the rich they will leave our country for a better tax heaven"My response:LET THEM!I'll help them move, rather yesterday!If the rich don't wanna pay up, kick them out or put them in jail 🤷 That's what happens with other people also if they EVADE tax like the rich doPersonally I'm so done with this stupid game
(DIR) Post #AkaeJSzmPoB62OBfhA by kelsiraespace@mstdn.social
2024-08-03T12:40:37Z
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@stux If we just eat one billionare the rest will fall in line
(DIR) Post #AkaeOsDs33V5j6M9fU by TheMNWolf@furry.engineer
2024-08-03T12:41:36Z
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@stux let's make politics a minimum wage job and impose the same kind of ethics rules that the bottom rung employees get at corporations. You get zero gifts. Let's see how long it takes them to decide what a living wage is then.
(DIR) Post #AkaePUS1urPCI1H00u by stux@mstdn.social
2024-08-03T12:41:38Z
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I'll say it again..If you are a billionaire.. you have a serious sickness.There is no valid reason in this universe one should hord so much while so much sufferBillionaires have an illeness.
(DIR) Post #AkaeUMA4AGTm1lBuwS by YakyuNightOwl@mastodon.world
2024-08-03T12:42:36Z
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@stux If they stopped handing out dual citizenship to everyone with a fat billfold, that would sure help.I don't remember the Statue of Liberty inviting parasites and part-time Americans for a lark.
(DIR) Post #AkaeoTpfLzhVbtFFPU by vger@fidget.place
2024-08-03T12:46:11Z
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@stuxThey're not paying anyways. So we lose nothing if they leave.
(DIR) Post #AkaepebgmOtbJgGcG8 by stux@mstdn.social
2024-08-03T12:46:27Z
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@vger We only gain! A lot!
(DIR) Post #AkaeueG7V5q5gYYlg8 by angiebaby@mas.to
2024-08-03T12:47:22Z
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@stux Being a billionaire should be viewed with the same concern for wellbeing as a double-wide stacked from top to bottom with undiscarded garbage and dead cats. It's the same mental illness.
(DIR) Post #AkafFJZZbfY1bqVtLc by anianimalsmoe@sakurajima.moe
2024-08-03T12:51:03Z
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@stuxWe also need to plug loopholes like stock options. It's insane that corporations can work with their C-suite execs to cheat governments of billions in taxes using creative accounting.
(DIR) Post #Akag5dUQngxkRJ3aiG by tizian@mastodon.online
2024-08-03T13:00:31Z
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@stux I think a German comedic show discussed this problem of tax evasion of particularly wealthy citizens. In that regard they did not limit it to billionaires but also included multimillionaires.They claimed, they could hardly move all away, esp. since much wealth is bound in property; and even if they did, much – particularly nice – housing would become available, easing the current housing problem in Germany.A bit cynical, but still accurate. :BlobhajBlanketSlate:
(DIR) Post #Akag9znvmGzQnyFyam by TheRealJG@sfba.social
2024-08-03T13:01:16Z
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@stux Billionaires are not the result of brilliant decisions, they are the result of horrendous decisions.
(DIR) Post #AkagOOARzb0wQ7eYXA by haploc@fedi.cr-net.be
2024-08-03T13:03:56Z
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@stux why should billionaires even need any tax cuts in the first place?
(DIR) Post #AkagQlBbNgHQOGK3Em by stux@mstdn.social
2024-08-03T13:04:21Z
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@haploc It should be the other way around
(DIR) Post #AkagWjsd9KXw4rIdfs by trebach@functional.cafe
2024-08-03T13:05:22Z
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@stux I have an idea. Tie the max amount of wealth a person can acquire before it's taxed at 100% to 3 million times the maximum (since there are various qualifiers) untipped minimum wage per hour, so $7.25/hour (federal minimum) becomes a cap of $20.75 million.If there's a difference in minimum wage depending on where their primary residence in the US is, then it goes in descending order forfeiting the difference to the various jurisdictions
(DIR) Post #AkagZzSjffrFH2joMC by stux@mstdn.social
2024-08-03T13:05:58Z
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@haploc Here in the NL the excuse i often hear is for multi bill comanies for examples, they wanna keep them in the country for the jobs they provide etc but i wonder if that goes up..
(DIR) Post #AkagmIVcgMWpowxOHw by realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world
2024-08-03T13:08:20.194155Z
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@haploc @stux @haploc @stux Tax cuts could give companies more breathing room to absorb the risings costs of labor, goods, or regulatory fees, without passing those costs down to their customers.
(DIR) Post #AkagnuHDkSQVFEzIiu by haploc@fedi.cr-net.be
2024-08-03T13:08:29Z
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@stux it's the same in Belgium.
(DIR) Post #AkahOdRvH6wNloVV20 by stux@mstdn.social
2024-08-03T13:15:10Z
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@realcaseyrollins @haploc This is widely mis-used so not worth it by a long shot im afraid..If they dont have the resources to grow they simply shouldn't grow
(DIR) Post #Akahc6RQnJgpS5hOgy by floby@mastodon.social
2024-08-03T13:17:36Z
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@stux with this argument I'm always puzzled because I don't understand the nature of the risk that they're invoking. Are they going to leave with their money? Is their money benefitting us in some way right now? Are they going to leave with their real estate?
(DIR) Post #AkahjbKQM7NbH0zrpQ by stux@mstdn.social
2024-08-03T13:18:57Z
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@floby Yup.. For companies I can "understand" the reasons maybe but still i totally disagreeWe need to draw a line or stop doing business perhaps if they won't otherwise
(DIR) Post #AkaiCzlMaVWrSBc6m8 by floby@mastodon.social
2024-08-03T13:18:25Z
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@kelsiraespace @stux problem with this approach is that none of them look like they'd be good meat
(DIR) Post #AkaiD0ZLafVlxD01gW by stux@mstdn.social
2024-08-03T13:24:17Z
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@floby @kelsiraespace Well.. if that was the choise im gonna be vegan right away
(DIR) Post #AkakxisRO1c0bNKisC by MarkAB@mastodon.world
2024-08-03T13:55:08Z
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@stux The point of 50’s-era 90% marginal tax rates was to incent companies to invest money into their businesses. These investments were tax-deductible, thereby reducing taxes while providing a benefit to society. Merely reducing the marginal tax rate allows business and the wealthy to just hold the wealth, without producing any benefit to society. We should create a separate, higher rate structure for those who choose to leave the US while keeping all the benefits of being here.
(DIR) Post #AkalPb4vyULwWWT6Fk by stux@mstdn.social
2024-08-03T14:00:03Z
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@chris sst don't tell 'em :blobcatgiggle:
(DIR) Post #AkalSMzumeXNilRWJE by realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world
2024-08-03T14:00:44.053271Z
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@stux @haploc @stux @haploc The state shouldn't be taking as many resources away from them
(DIR) Post #Akan8JUYJBxMxrKyiO by haploc@fedi.cr-net.be
2024-08-03T14:15:34Z
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@realcaseyrollins @stux remember that the people and companies that profit most from these tax cuts already have off-shore accounts and tax-constructs, in order to avoid paying the full taxes that they're normally due.
(DIR) Post #Akan8KH7OcnxOU3lPk by realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world
2024-08-03T14:19:31.433088Z
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@haploc @stux @haploc @stux What does this have to do with my argument? 🤔
(DIR) Post #AkanBukYEyFzO3XP72 by obviousdwest@hachyderm.io
2024-08-03T14:20:05Z
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@stux The problem with the “fear” of losing billionaires and headquarters of corporations overseas is that it is based on the false assumption that having them domestic is an advantage. Like their money and presence benefits the population. That it must trickle down. But what they do is sail yachts and build golf courses polluting and using resources unwisely. We’d be better off having them play with the Orcas.
(DIR) Post #Akane9yFF8ckhaPZ3Y by oldguycrusty@mastodon.world
2024-08-03T14:25:11Z
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@stux #TaxTheRich or #EatTheRich if they dont want to #paytheirfairshare
(DIR) Post #AkavBj0igaMObzWN60 by pplupo@mstdn.social
2024-08-03T15:49:32Z
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@stux as I understand (and I'm open to a honest and respectful conversation), billionaires don't keep their money under the cushion. Their wealth is not sitting still on a bank account. It's all assets, which is usually businesses, companies, investments that give people jobs, allow new business to be created, and grow. All of which help societies to offer better and more accessible services and products, improving everyone's lives and creating more wealth for everyone.
(DIR) Post #AkavbNXJ9LB5XUzqdc by stux@mstdn.social
2024-08-03T15:54:20Z
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@pplupo In some cases for sure but not all unfort, and if they are it's the question in far of a capacity they really provide such thingsElon would be a good example of a "useless billionaire" while Gates would be perhaps more in the first cat
(DIR) Post #AkavmMLptbdj37rnns by stux@mstdn.social
2024-08-03T15:56:20Z
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@pplupo And it's not about "hording money" perse as it is avoiding paying taxes for example, so taking their part in the "normal way" of contributing instead of their "special billionaire way" with "giving jobs" that benefit taxes left and rightIt's like the more capital one owns the less responsiblity they seem to have "beacuse they give us X or Y"
(DIR) Post #AkawfLjnsVNb4eIZwu by TheNovemberMan@bookstodon.com
2024-08-03T16:06:16Z
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@stux #EatTheRich #SayNoToAnOligarch
(DIR) Post #Akb0Zgl3DEyALVREO0 by pplupo@mstdn.social
2024-08-03T16:50:06Z
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@stux where are they taking the money from? There's not enough money laying around, it's all in the asset's, which is extremely beneficial. Much more than the actual taxes, because it's allowing everyone to get money in their pockets too.
(DIR) Post #AkbES4Qaisfuna87V2 by JanetGrBr@mastodon.social
2024-08-03T19:24:36Z
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@stux They have a sick mind, sounds better to me.
(DIR) Post #AkbEsvWVwBj706hrOK by stux@mstdn.social
2024-08-03T19:30:24Z
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@JanetGrBr What i was looking for indeed!
(DIR) Post #AkbPFFDgO3O404B8zo by janisf@mstdn.social
2024-08-03T21:26:29Z
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@stux I'm beginning to wonder. The power in the hands of the likes of Putin + cronies, Burlusconi & big Pharm, and then developing nations like Maduro's and Modi's, not to mention Musk... someone needs to fight for real democracy. Capital seems to be winning.We need to start looking at this as a global issue, where corporate "states" are gaining more power than nation states, made clear by the takeovers of those nation states.The tools for taxing the rich are out rusting in the shed.
(DIR) Post #AkfSy8sDuBqXqO56zA by NadCee@worldkey.io
2024-08-05T20:26:56Z
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@stux yeah the thing I'm wondering though is that they already don't pay their taxes. If we tax them more, would it change anything?