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 (DIR) Post #AkEpNapI4D7FV7KgXg by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2024-07-24T00:00:58Z
       
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       They had the signs printed in advanced. Hired a graphic designer. (Wow he did a good job.)  Handed them out. Waved them proudly on television. Like they say "Lower Taxes" or something. There is no neutral way to read this sign. It's about getting rid of people because of who they are. There is no gray area. No fig leaf. Just eliminationism. It doesn't even say WHO or WHY.
       
 (DIR) Post #AkEpZbEWNbN0EorLA8 by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2024-07-24T00:02:57Z
       
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       Like everyone is assuming it's about immigration. It doesn't **say** that. That's not what is important about this ... "message"
       
 (DIR) Post #AkEpjKNZtfuGrWjaUq by ottaross@mastodon.social
       2024-07-24T00:04:51Z
       
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       @futurebird that was pretty stark.
       
 (DIR) Post #AkEpy9iFpxV27mTZoW by DrFerrous@hachyderm.io
       2024-07-24T00:07:35Z
       
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       @futurebird saying the quiet part out loud, maybe next time they’ll say “Mass Extermination Now”
       
 (DIR) Post #AkEq0YUEhPorXS3z9M by unabogie@urbanists.social
       2024-07-24T00:08:04Z
       
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       @futurebird when this happens in other countries, we call it "ethnic cleansing" and we were generally agreed that it was bad!
       
 (DIR) Post #AkEqBDicFr4oJSsIpk by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2024-07-24T00:09:53Z
       
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       @DrFerrous That's what "deportation" ends up being when you do it en mass.Mass deportation is a logistical, foreign policy and expensive nightmare. It's basically a process that always fails. Always. Do people not know this??
       
 (DIR) Post #AkEqCuKTJb9WkzO0HI by calbearo@convo.casa
       2024-07-24T00:09:59Z
       
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       @futurebird this is accurate though. If they have the chance to operationalize this, they will absolutely detain, hold in camps and deport US citizens. These might be “mistakes” but I expect the program to be intentionally indiscriminate and that citizens who are deported will be blamed by those responsible.
       
 (DIR) Post #AkEqGxhshQ1AOHGk76 by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2024-07-24T00:11:01Z
       
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       @MarkBrigham "Whops! All Bad Apples!"
       
 (DIR) Post #AkEr2rx9OWxCRhFsFk by ochaos@techhub.social
       2024-07-24T00:19:42Z
       
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       @futurebird Trump made specific references (although not by name) to Operation Wetback.... My grandparents fled the city of Los Angels with their kids to a then rural area well outside of the city to avoid it as brown people were being picked up off the street and put on trains to Mexico.   (This despite both my grandparents being born in texas (where my ancestors lived for at least 200 years before the Mexican American war.))
       
 (DIR) Post #AkErPsloWSmfdlvTCS by alter_kaker@hachyderm.io
       2024-07-24T00:23:47Z
       
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       @futurebird 👆
       
 (DIR) Post #AkErRYvJHeAufLAWRM by herhandsmyhands@romancelandia.club
       2024-07-24T00:24:03Z
       
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       @futurebird The message, which all the MAGAts understand, is, "all YOUR enemies".For some of them is immigrants, for others is Jews, for others is Black people, or progressives, or trans or other LGBTQIA+ people. That's why it's not made clear in the sign: they want the MAGAts to fill in with the objects of their individual hatreds.#USPolitics #2024Election
       
 (DIR) Post #AkErda1n0F1XZAviTI by webbj@mstdn.social
       2024-07-24T00:26:18Z
       
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       @futurebird Republicans have already been fighting to revoke birthright citizenship... https://www.newsweek.com/republicans-want-end-birthright-citizenship-they-cant-opinion-1828277
       
 (DIR) Post #AkEsEdCWAVRW7ccDb6 by space_wrangler@mastodon.social
       2024-07-24T00:32:57Z
       
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       @futurebird Zero % chance that citizens and green card holders wouldnt be swept up in this. The effort itself would trigger violent resistance, particularly in the large metro areas it would target: LA, NYC, Chicago, Atlanta, etcThe idea is evil. That it is a campaign slogan is chilling and scary.
       
 (DIR) Post #AkEsVJ9lwhdCsXHcsC by wordshaper@weatherishappening.network
       2024-07-24T00:35:55Z
       
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       @futurebird my assumption is they won’t bother checking anyone’s citizenship status before tossing anyone Asian or brown into the camps, or before shipping them to some random third country.
       
 (DIR) Post #AkEtGOcPSLxPQe8DGi by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2024-07-24T00:44:29Z
       
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       @wordshaper You know how they have been asking people to report on their neighbors about abortions and on teachers who ... have books?That's just priming people for this "mass deportation" stuff too.
       
 (DIR) Post #AkEtoVZM7VD6pdy8e0 by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2024-07-24T00:50:40Z
       
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       @webbj Do people not understand just how many families will be totally destroyed by this? Torn apart? Whole communities would be ruined. Many of the people don't even speak the language of the nation they may have been born in and know nothing about it. And if that isn't "moving" enough it will also ruin the economy. I mean if that's the only thing that arouse emotion in some people anymore.
       
 (DIR) Post #AkEuE9xn4ZVRLrd6Tg by Pablo@pnw.zone
       2024-07-24T00:55:20Z
       
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       @futurebird This time? Latinos.Next time? Jews? Gays? Blacks? Native Americans? Childless couples? Mimes? Or, even (your name here).
       
 (DIR) Post #AkEwMAqhraDuK8GWIa by PaulW@petrous.vislae.town
       2024-07-24T01:19:09Z
       
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       @futurebird @DrFerrous if they did this, I expect it would culminate in dropping off people they don't like on the other side of the Mexican border, in the middle of the desert in the middle of nowhere, so they can wander around until they die. I heard Turkiye did this to the Armenians during that genocide.
       
 (DIR) Post #AkEwRUyEToK8B2KBqS by PaulW@petrous.vislae.town
       2024-07-24T01:19:59Z
       
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       @futurebird I feel like a political ad in response almost writes itself: "Are you SURE they don't mean you?"
       
 (DIR) Post #AkEwZJqBkB4FyXI78q by tobie1@mastodon.social
       2024-07-24T01:21:32Z
       
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       @futurebird It really was a Nurnberg rally. I read about the signs but didn't watch the convention so didn't see them. How absolutely nauseating.
       
 (DIR) Post #AkExZZGWUk5DliI8S8 by noplasticshower@zirk.us
       2024-07-24T01:32:43Z
       
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       @futurebird Nazis on parade
       
 (DIR) Post #AkEy1LlaHG6y0i4FwO by SasquatcherGeneral@idlethumbs.social
       2024-07-24T01:37:46Z
       
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       @futurebird it made me furious that news sites covered the RNC as if it were business as usual instead of a hate rally. I even saw one of them describe it as a call for “unity!” Deleted every one of them.
       
 (DIR) Post #AkEyYWTHUwhilcKBUm by nora@blob.love
       2024-07-24T01:43:46Z
       
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       @futurebird i keep thinking about this. how many hands the signs had to pass through
       
 (DIR) Post #AkF1cqRrSuvDkIPfX6 by TheNovemberMan@bookstodon.com
       2024-07-24T02:18:13Z
       
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       @futurebird Despicable #GOP
       
 (DIR) Post #AkF4Yf4a7JWHAZDkpc by impermanen_@zirk.us
       2024-07-24T02:51:03Z
       
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       @futurebird I was just reading this excellent long-form article by a man whose whole family were committed Nazis in WWII. https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jul/23/my-family-and-other-nazis People can be pushed from garden-variety hatred into participation in horrific violence by the fact of state sanction.The officialness of the design for the signs was I think part of the message. The message wasn’t “support this policy.” It was: “you have an official patriotic duty to shed moral qualms and personally commit violence.”
       
 (DIR) Post #AkF4r0Gy2G0q8ElCUa by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2024-07-24T02:54:23Z
       
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       @impermanen_ The veneer of professionalism and polish is very upsetting to me. They have said this stuff before, muttered it, dog whistled,  but now it's in print and official. That's a little too close to it being official government policy. To it having the force of state sanctioned violence fully deployed behind it. The permission structure is already there. The excuses. The daily violations. It can be magnified made "mass" We just can't let that happen! No.
       
 (DIR) Post #AkF6FtnrKGBTGEa2AC by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2024-07-24T03:10:06Z
       
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       @herhandsmyhands Maybe if I do this it will connect more.
       
 (DIR) Post #AkF6TFKObmbDmdACC8 by CStamp@mastodon.social
       2024-07-24T03:12:16Z
       
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       @futurebird @herhandsmyhands In black & white, it's even more 1940 ish Germany.
       
 (DIR) Post #AkF7MLGyCvaQ9Dph7A by uq@mas.to
       2024-07-24T03:22:25Z
       
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       @futurebird I think someday people will look back on those signs the same way we look back at the Nazi rally in MSG.
       
 (DIR) Post #AkF7gzoZBR0vg5ObBo by herhandsmyhands@romancelandia.club
       2024-07-24T03:26:03Z
       
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       @futurebird I did not miss the point, I am saying that in 2024, the fascists are aiming to widen their appeal to the racists and bigots and antisemites and xenophobes and Nazis by letting them think that their own preferred enemy is the enemy of the whole party--which it is, of course, because fascists.#USPolitics #2024Election
       
 (DIR) Post #AkF7l97wVADZibRCZU by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2024-07-24T03:26:52Z
       
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       @herhandsmyhands Oh I was just adding on. Didn't mean to imply you missed anything.
       
 (DIR) Post #AkF7y7DOvCJ5YMAuhc by herhandsmyhands@romancelandia.club
       2024-07-24T03:29:11Z
       
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       @futurebird OH!!!I'm sorry, my bad.
       
 (DIR) Post #AkF83OJklKga2kf6VE by iwein@mas.to
       2024-07-24T03:30:13Z
       
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       @futurebird good for you. I'm keeping a list of all us voter "friends" that didn't denounce that filth publicly. As far as my blunt understanding goes, if a us voter is not a democrat, they're a fascist. Those are clearly the options now, right?
       
 (DIR) Post #AkF9i6M4YGIMA0isDY by MishaVanMollusq@sfba.social
       2024-07-24T03:48:47Z
       
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       @futurebird @herhandsmyhands yeahup
       
 (DIR) Post #AkFAVF3eyz2bLGXh32 by jasonsando@hachyderm.io
       2024-07-24T03:57:40Z
       
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       @futurebird WOW.   Wow wow wow.  Thank you for taking the time to highlight this ... I saw one photo of it in passing, thought "lol you guys are all immigrants", and moved on with my life.  This should be a huge national story.
       
 (DIR) Post #AkFDp3E8ylCCIraEvA by Trendar@sfba.social
       2024-07-24T04:34:53Z
       
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       @futurebird It was translated from the original German.
       
 (DIR) Post #AkFN0DAjF9yZv5Nmng by slink@fosstodon.org
       2024-07-24T06:17:44Z
       
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       @futurebird as a german, when i read "deportation" i read "concentration camp" and "gas chamber", because these are the contexts this word was used with in school and during conversations about the nazi crimes.there is only one answer: NEVER AGAIN
       
 (DIR) Post #AkFONIPK2oxiltmQOu by attilakinali@society.oftrolls.com
       2024-07-24T06:32:59Z
       
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       @futurebird When will people realize that the GOP and its base are fascist? They use exactly the same slogans as that German party in the 1930s. Exactly. The. Same.
       
 (DIR) Post #AkFqNhiUk7Chz1jNK4 by Aileen22@mastodon.social
       2024-07-24T11:46:53Z
       
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       @futurebird 👀😨🫂
       
 (DIR) Post #AkFtMnYhpuDDfvPbKi by jrefior@hachyderm.io
       2024-07-24T12:20:19Z
       
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       @futurebird “If former president Donald Trump is elected for a second term, he and his advisers promise to remove from the U.S., via forced expulsions and deportation camps, as many as 20 million people—a number larger than the country’s current estimated population of undocumented residents. Put into effect, this scheme would devolve quickly into a vast 21st-century version of concentration camps”https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/trumps-massive-deportation-plan-echoes-concentration-camp-history/
       
 (DIR) Post #AkFuXZv2zL2CVoZ9Zw by davidpnice@mastodon.online
       2024-07-24T12:33:30Z
       
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       @futurebird That's labelled 'sensitive content'. INsensitive, certainly, to put it mildly.
       
 (DIR) Post #AkFv6sUpuVjYGQ8d8K by yacc143@mastodon.social
       2024-07-24T12:39:53Z
       
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       @futurebird @DrFerrous No, they want to believe that you can magic away “unwanted elements”.Where to, how, ...These are way too complicated questions.Some don't ask and don't want to ask these questions.And some enjoy the potential cruelty implied.
       
 (DIR) Post #AkG4dtVA5pciWd6nSq by TimWardCam@c.im
       2024-07-24T14:26:39Z
       
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       @futurebird Well, I can understand any country wanting to deport its gammons ("MAGAs" in the US version), but who would take them?
       
 (DIR) Post #AkGSefcnZP9ag0aFNI by StevenJV@curmudgeon.cafe
       2024-07-24T18:55:43Z
       
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       @futurebird @wordshaper the priming has been going on for years now… “if you see something, say something.” I went drifting through the capitals of tinWhere men can't walk or freely talkAnd sons turn their fathers in.- The Wanderer
       
 (DIR) Post #AkGXhxPGPjjCStdi0O by LazaroDTormes@mastodon.social
       2024-07-24T19:52:17Z
       
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       @futurebird Me neither https://mastodon.social/@LazaroDTormes/112814061217446550
       
 (DIR) Post #AkGrcCKrzdqC737DiC by ottaross@mastodon.social
       2024-07-24T02:19:46Z
       
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       @vikxin @futurebird @DrFerrous I'm surprised they don't haul out signs saying "genocide now."
       
 (DIR) Post #AkGrcDEAg24osYzNuS by alexhammy@hachyderm.io
       2024-07-24T23:33:53Z
       
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       @ottaross @vikxin @futurebird @DrFerrous counterpoint: they kind of did
       
 (DIR) Post #AkGrcE4HYHlDUBN08O by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2024-07-24T23:35:24Z
       
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       @alexhammy @ottaross @vikxin @DrFerrous "mass deportation" isn't anything but "throw away the ones we don't like"
       
 (DIR) Post #AkGrjBnuMtLkUV21aa by alexhammy@hachyderm.io
       2024-07-24T23:36:40Z
       
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       @futurebird @ottaross @vikxin @DrFerrous it's not a stretch at all to read those signs as "genocide now".
       
 (DIR) Post #AkGvH1NFx6jpqrOCMi by franktaber@mas.to
       2024-07-25T00:16:26Z
       
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       @futurebird Trump is doubling down on mass deportations. As expected he wants to deputize anyone in a uniform to become the national deportation force. Here is a report from today.
       
 (DIR) Post #AkHSrmBOh1dHwFyaG0 by Mr_GHARice@mastodon.social
       2024-07-25T06:32:50Z
       
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       @futurebirdFor fascists the "ones we don't like" is a very flexible thing. Any sign holder should think about at which point he/she is included in this group.  @alexhammy @ottaross @vikxin @DrFerrous
       
 (DIR) Post #AkHdvilKS1lfz5rmd6 by SteveBologna@mstdn.social
       2024-07-25T08:36:47Z
       
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       @futurebird    This is just another example of how evil they are. I will never forgive or forget their hate
       
 (DIR) Post #AkHvKt72nwhWXsbsdU by TimPurdum@dotnet.social
       2024-07-25T11:51:37Z
       
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       @futurebird @DrFerrous I think the message is sticking with these folks who have a blend of racism and ignorance. Some of them know exactly what it means, while others don't understand the euphemisms but still want the "results" and don't even bother to think about details.
       
 (DIR) Post #AkITVxN0iEMFNQWluq by TruthSandwich@fedi.truth-sandwich.com
       2024-07-25T18:14:29Z
       
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       @futurebird In their "defense", they're not interested so much in deporting as massacring.
       
 (DIR) Post #AkOlOcMjN9Q2KRo4O0 by JimJoe@mastodon.social
       2024-07-28T19:03:25Z
       
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       @futurebird makes me feel ill.