Post AkCOut42C5dQXfxcFk by derek@www.glidden.life
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(DIR) Post #AkCMVbomydHTuIeG4e by foone@digipres.club
2024-07-22T19:26:43Z
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I'm disappointed that after the 8086 (or maybe the 80286?) Intel stopped making DIP versions of their processors.I want a core i9 in DIP form, damn it.
(DIR) Post #AkCMfoZ4RNpEKrA8xM by JennyFluff@chitter.xyz
2024-07-22T19:28:18Z
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@foone *wonders if @NanoRaptor has some ideas how that looks like*
(DIR) Post #AkCMqH9J1Fq9st6EOu by foone@digipres.club
2024-07-22T19:28:15Z
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Based on standard dip pitch I think it would be about two meters/7 feet wide.
(DIR) Post #AkCNBr4ycvOTOvMfPk by rallias@hax.social
2024-07-22T19:29:05Z
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@foone Would that be a CaDIPillar Chip?
(DIR) Post #AkCNIx9oQYhaHL0k2S by thomholwerda@exquisite.social
2024-07-22T19:29:56Z
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@foone Well... Paging @NanoRaptor
(DIR) Post #AkCNPrrYVi0Dswlids by azonenberg@ioc.exchange
2024-07-22T19:31:45Z
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@foone Forget spider chips, that thing would be a millipede.
(DIR) Post #AkCNXLDtkPysyJmbFQ by wonka@chaos.social
2024-07-22T19:32:21Z
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@foone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_80286 talks about 68 and 100 pin packages. That might be a little too much for DIP.
(DIR) Post #AkCNeOWnrHlFFUzMsy by syn@ohai.social
2024-07-22T19:32:33Z
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@foone (this would give you a lot of problems with the speed light)
(DIR) Post #AkCNjzriSzfeUqRT9s by tony@toot.hoyle.me.uk
2024-07-22T19:32:44Z
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@foone Apparently that would be 40 feet long.That's a heck of a breadboard.
(DIR) Post #AkCNpELM45tUqaniL2 by bruce@darkmoon.social
2024-07-22T19:33:13Z
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@foone Intel stopped using numbers to designate CPUs because they couldn't be trademarked, starting with the Pentium. What do you think the number designation might be for the Core i9 if they were still doing that?
(DIR) Post #AkCNuyVxpTuRUaVDIe by bytex64@awesome.garden
2024-07-22T19:34:04Z
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@foone Hm. We might have to move to 0.05” pin spacing.
(DIR) Post #AkCNuzilLNk1EZUwt6 by bytex64@awesome.garden
2024-07-22T19:35:41Z
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@foone Or just start multiplexing all the pins with an 11 bit selector…
(DIR) Post #AkCNvYD57ACCCRwdrk by rk@mastodon.well.com
2024-07-22T19:37:51Z
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@foone We could probably multiplex a lot of the pins and we could give it an 8-bit data bus, for example.
(DIR) Post #AkCNvZ147KB6hTKYm8 by mothcompute@vixen.zone
2024-07-22T19:44:03Z
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@rk @foone maybe we could just make a bunch of different interconnected dips. a general data processor. an interface processor. an attached processor to bring back real mode. we could call it the i9-4320k
(DIR) Post #AkCO1w0hXRaZkjCLY0 by smellsofbikes@mastodon.social
2024-07-22T19:36:08Z
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@foone the 68000 is pretty massive already... And I only just recently learned the whole reason it was 16/32 bit was because a full 32 bit implementation exceeded the max number of pins they could build in a DIP.
(DIR) Post #AkCOItyyKbHmO0TouG by darkling@mstdn.social
2024-07-22T19:45:40Z
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@foone You could shorten that a lot by simply putting one of these on the top of the chip for getting the power into it:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEC_60309
(DIR) Post #AkCOut42C5dQXfxcFk by derek@www.glidden.life
2024-07-22T19:51:35Z
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@foone 2.15m long if we're using 2.54mm spacing, which I looked up as JDEC standard for DIP pins, for a DIP-style i9-14000. The i9 14th gen uses LGA 1700, which apparently has 1700 connector pins on it. Go figure. The math does itself after that.This does not take into consideration alternate layouts for the CPU transistors or anything like that.I really expected it to be much, much longer. This is almost do-able. Next step: design the heat-sink for that beast.
(DIR) Post #AkCPA9CEUsI0v34WMy by graemefowler@mastodon.social
2024-07-22T19:53:55Z
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@foone perfect DevBed for winter. Integrated heating.
(DIR) Post #AkCQUB6PDhdmZnSgOu by davidmc@hachyderm.io
2024-07-22T20:05:03Z
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@foone ... someting something inductance something
(DIR) Post #AkCR36UiLOUSQ8UAMq by schaffenburg@social.schaffenburg.org
2024-07-22T20:01:35Z
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@foone Will need some drive current capability to feed the external connections with speedy level changes, huh?
(DIR) Post #AkCR37J3KEkwwG2MpU by foone@digipres.club
2024-07-22T20:17:37Z
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@schaffenburg going back to good ol' 12v logic
(DIR) Post #AkCTWubrIOKU9lAWQq by 7331@mastodon.de
2024-07-22T20:44:59Z
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@foone i think physics says no to that but also fuck physics
(DIR) Post #AkCVXPLnCYyNPE1BYW by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2024-07-22T21:08:44.774808Z
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@foone Reminds me that AMD sticked to pins for their CPUs for quite a while (not sure if they even stopped), while Intel instead effectively moved those to the motherboard side.
(DIR) Post #AkCW1ggxI8BJsPM5dQ by cpgorski@mastodon.social
2024-07-22T21:13:20Z
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@foone ... about 7 ns wide?...
(DIR) Post #AkCcDOKA0VY86tenz6 by nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.social
2024-07-22T22:23:13Z
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@foone What's wrong with the slot form CPUs? 😁
(DIR) Post #AkDCDLJomJqP8em036 by schaffenburg@social.schaffenburg.org
2024-07-23T05:06:11Z
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@foone Should attach a window to the encapsulation look at the brightness of the bond wires for debugging reasons.
(DIR) Post #AkDmHrvX51jbmOs5Ds by Godzil@mastodon.social
2024-07-23T11:50:05Z
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@foone Maybe they could have use the Dual DIP that rockwell used on the 6511?With a 1mm spacing that could be a good form factor!
(DIR) Post #AkE07eKs9jom5bkGES by kiefac@eattherich.club
2024-07-23T14:25:48Z
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@foone imagining an alternate reality where they started making really long dips that snake into a square/spiral/etc to fit inside a case
(DIR) Post #AkE0TU4N0R8mcWRCUa by vxo@digipres.club
2024-07-23T14:28:12Z
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@foone you've inspired me with the thought of more cursed form factorshow about Spiral PGA or something with many radial rings of lands that drops into a fingered socket like an RF power tube
(DIR) Post #AkED8uz92OrlQ9W8ga by Stormgren@obsidianmoon.com
2024-07-23T16:51:11Z
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@foone That's reminding me of that monster 64-pin DIP processors of the 80s like the MC68000 and the TMS9900Given the pin density, why not make it something even more cursed like QIP?
(DIR) Post #AkEjrjyg0VvSqViP4K by duncanlock@cosocial.ca
2024-07-23T22:58:18Z
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@fooneWell, now my headcannon is that the Star Wars Imperial Navy use chips like this, which is why their ships are all so huge. Four guys and a droid in special black helmets, levering a huge smoking slab out of its socket in a firefight.