Post AjOwVBcNGtAeSuhCHA by mybarkingdogs@freeradical.zone
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(DIR) Post #AjOjgzlNsEpblmD75s by ernie@writing.exchange
2024-06-28T20:45:41Z
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The irony is not lost on me that the Internet Archive went out of its way to acquire the physical versions of millions of books and loan them out carefully and in a limited way, and is facing a near-extinction-level event over it, while for-profit and VC-backed companies are just stealing people’s content and making up excuses to validate the bad behavior.
(DIR) Post #AjOq05cwtZozBQklPc by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
2024-06-28T22:03:01Z
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@ernie @jonny I honestly think that if IA's intent were profit they'd have an easier time arguing. But we'll see what the judges do this fall...
(DIR) Post #AjOwVBcNGtAeSuhCHA by mybarkingdogs@freeradical.zone
2024-06-28T20:48:59Z
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@ernie Copyright is a tool of those rich enough to enforce it #AbolishCopyright
(DIR) Post #AjPCSoNIJhMd46X1l2 by amerika@annihilation.social
2024-06-29T02:14:44.519025Z
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@ernie You know why lobbyists are expensive?Because they're worth it!
(DIR) Post #AjPK7K4Oar60d1xLou by mitch@posts.dumb.stuff.donaberger.xyz
2024-06-28T20:50:52Z
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@ernie you know, I have to wonder if the inaction on prosecuting LLM training companies actually introduced a legal loophole for libraries.Consider that right now, the American legal standard is that GenAI output is considered a derivative work, even if it derived it from 30 billion works. I wonder if the Internet Archive "chunked" editions of books together into a specialized model, could they then "loan" the book out by inferencing a near exact but legally 'distinct' copy of that work?
(DIR) Post #AjPK7LTxLJ8V0avHIe by mitch@posts.dumb.stuff.donaberger.xyz
2024-06-28T20:53:00Z
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@ernie after all, coaxing an LLM to reproduce a reference work basically in full is pretty established research at this point. We know it's possible — it's how the tech started, by being able to reproduce a ground truth image despite never having actually been exposed to the original file.I dunno, I'm just some idiot online.
(DIR) Post #AjQBh4Xh63EISzamEi by feld@bikeshed.party
2024-06-29T13:40:22.808705Z
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@mitch @ernie > coaxing an LLM to reproduce a reference work basically in full is pretty established research at this point. If that was the case Sarah Silverman's lawsuit wouldn't be going so poorly. They even avoid claiming it can produce the reference works.
(DIR) Post #AjQBxTL6faRc0SWaJM by lain@lain.com
2024-06-29T13:43:13.774474Z
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@feld @mitch @ernie there's no way to square this circle anyway, copyright is a nonsensical 'right' and i'm happy that llms are exposing it in the way that they are