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 (DIR) Post #AjEj1wtIxq74wZMGX2 by Bron1954@mastodon.social
       2024-06-23T23:52:14Z
       
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 (DIR) Post #AjEjBAFMg22MyL4Rgu by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2024-06-24T00:59:25Z
       
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       @Bron1954 Putting house spiders outside is often doom for them. I ask people to give them to me instead since my ants love spiders. (and the spiders love ants... it's a circle of life I guess)But really if a house spider isn't in the way just leave it there. It would not be there if there were not things it was eating. If you remove it you may meet "the food" instead.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjEjom02FN5TM0msm8 by jornane@ipv6.social
       2024-06-24T01:06:01Z
       
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       @futurebird @Bron1954 My partner is afraid of spiders.So I pick them up, walk towards the door, release it inside, open the door, make a throwing gesture, close the door and everyone is happy.The spider will be more careful not to be spotted next time.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjEjwHS7hgqkvmVNc8 by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2024-06-24T01:07:56Z
       
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       @Bron1954 If it's a wolf spider or other woodsy type of spider putting it in a log pile can be fine. But cellar spiders and common house spiders can't really deal with the outside. They are adapted to low traffic areas in human dwellings.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjEjyDdyprdVhIyXku by timstrange@deadrobots.social
       2024-06-24T01:08:08Z
       
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       @futurebird @Bron1954 I totally embrace the spiders that appear in my house. I even give them names and talk to them. Lol? Though sometimes it's just telling them off for making webs in really stupid paces...
       
 (DIR) Post #AjEkTvgn7s31HLPY5Q by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2024-06-24T01:14:01Z
       
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       @Bron1954 If a queen ant wanders into your house ... she probably won't set up an empire if you have a few spiders around. (ants do not need to live in houses, in fact most of them need diapause in winter and might be better off outside) Spiders are often near old windows and other places where insects may bumble in. A spider free house will soon have many other guests.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjEkmjhpu3hTcErqb2 by Bron1954@mastodon.social
       2024-06-24T01:17:21Z
       
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       @futurebird If it's small I don't mind. I live in a rural area and get huge spiders sometimes. I'm OK with them but would be a bit worried if I had one sitting on the ceiling over my head when I go to bed. I generally relocate them outside to a safe area like the shed. I will never kills them.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjEl9xgu4cZpeLVR44 by Bron1954@mastodon.social
       2024-06-24T01:21:36Z
       
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       @futurebird I have some small ones quite happy in my kitchen and living areas which I'm happy to leave there. They're quite cute. Once however I walked out and saw a Huntsman Spider that was almost as big as a dinner plate sitting on my back door, so I gently coaxed it outside. They go into the ceiling I think which is fine.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjElK9AUFyAc8pCTHU by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2024-06-24T01:23:26Z
       
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       @Bron1954 Huntsmen aren't "house spiders"... I'm talking about the little ones that may live under the sink, or in a corner of a basement window.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjElvHfxaX9bF3d6w4 by Bron1954@mastodon.social
       2024-06-24T01:30:01Z
       
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       @futurebird I'm fine with those. I have quite a few around the home.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjEmD4BGV8z4bGkfj6 by sashin@veganism.social
       2024-06-24T01:33:20Z
       
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       @futurebird @Bron1954 What's diapause? I love reading these exchanges, btw!
       
 (DIR) Post #AjEmu95y6YoCIJoenY by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2024-06-24T01:41:08Z
       
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       @sashin @Bron1954 It's similar to hibernation. Ever wonder where ants go in winter? They are inside of their colonies either deep underground or inside of a tree stump. They can't produce heat like mammals so they grow cool like the ambient temperature around them. This causes their metabolism to slow and they fall into a kind of suspended animation. They still move a little and may wake up and drink water or groom, but they are mostly motionless for months when it's cold.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjEn59IzfESa8D9gmm by sashin@veganism.social
       2024-06-24T01:43:08Z
       
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       @futurebird @Bron1954 I had no idea! I'd never noticed them gone in the winter! It's winter here where I am, will look out for ants next time I go out for a walk.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjEnHybal2iCi6yGeG by lambic@social.linux.pizza
       2024-06-24T01:45:26Z
       
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       @futurebird @sashin @Bron1954 do your ant colonies hibernate even though they don't experience winter?
       
 (DIR) Post #AjEnOGW54s2DzxONCi by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2024-06-24T01:46:36Z
       
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       @sashin @Bron1954 Carpenter ants in particular are very tolerant to cold. Camponotus chromaiodes colonies can be basically frozen in the deep of winter then they revive in the spring. They change something about their hemolymph (ant blood) that keeps it from freezing and being damaged by ice crystals. Though antkeepers rarely chill ants below 40F or about 5C since it's hard to know if pet ants have prepared their blood for freezing temps.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjEnVAE8rLzmWGI5fE by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2024-06-24T01:47:51Z
       
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       @sashin @Bron1954 But, nonetheless many ants can come back to life after being frozen, and the queen of such colonies lives for as much as a decade ... getting frozen every year! Seems like a neat trick to learn.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjEnkAVK6yKRirTwYq by sashin@veganism.social
       2024-06-24T01:50:32Z
       
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       @futurebird @Bron1954 I wonder if sleeping is a kind of hibernation in miniature. I vaguely remember reading somewhere that the most important factor to quality of sleep was not the duration but whether we were in deep sleep during the coldest part of the night.In fact, the temperature changes in the day night cycle could be viewed as the seasons in miniature.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjEnmKY7jcBnSLp4Wu by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2024-06-24T01:51:00Z
       
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       @lambic @sashin @Bron1954 Yes, it's much healthier for the colony and queen to simulate mild winters. I have a wine fridge that I put them in for Nov. and Dec.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjEoApuInbUdf0sjUO by nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social
       2024-06-24T01:55:17Z
       
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       @futurebird @Bron1954 One time I woke up to the sound of some bug crawling around in my ear.  In that particular place I had known there was a spider on the ceiling and left it, so 99% sure it was that.  I always felt so paranoid because it could have been a young brown recluse.  Probably not(Also you can't use enter or shift+enter in the CW bar I see.) -.-
       
 (DIR) Post #AjEpFlbKKuAjhvvB4q by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2024-06-24T02:07:22Z
       
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       @psistarpsiii @Bron1954 In temperate zones it's the cold, but also there are certain species that are just adapted to live in houses. They have lived with us for tens of thousands of years. eg. Parasteatoda tepidariorum
       
 (DIR) Post #AjEqafevit9VJZ8dIu by SpaceAce@esoteric.party
       2024-06-24T02:22:27Z
       
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       @futurebird @Bron1954 YOU'LL BE HAPPY TO KNOW i used to always kick spiders out of my house...well no you won't be happy to know that. but like half a decade ago i looked up what they were and they're not dangerous or poisonous to cats. It wasn't me I was worried about it was my cats. after that if i just leave em alone or if my wife wants it gone i put it down in the basement
       
 (DIR) Post #AjEqv8vScVOPsJdFke by indigoparadox@mastodon.social
       2024-06-24T02:26:09Z
       
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       @futurebird @sashin @Bron1954 "Prepare your blood for freezing temps" is a stock phrase on the local weather forecast for ants.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjEtvirXJ9kzC2lSfw by Tergenev@mastodon.social
       2024-06-24T02:59:47Z
       
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       @futurebird @Bron1954 We have a black widow living in the top section of one of our kitchen cabinets. Or we did. We haven’t checked on it in a while.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjFMwbbuea1nf6EKCu by Roadwarrior29@mastodon.scot
       2024-06-24T08:24:57Z
       
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       @futurebird @Bron1954 We like oor hoose spiders 👍
       
 (DIR) Post #AjFNbm0ysKQxnraNaS by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2024-06-24T08:32:23Z
       
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       @Wharrrrrrgarbl @sashin @Bron1954 "There is also some sort of role for sleep in memory consolidation but I don't recall the mechanisms."Maybe take a nap?
       
 (DIR) Post #AjFO45mUygEZDSJbo8 by moira@mastodon.murkworks.net
       2024-06-24T08:37:32Z
       
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       @futurebird [snerk] xD
       
 (DIR) Post #AjFQBXNSyQnWjvHhIG by iDGS@mas.to
       2024-06-24T09:01:16Z
       
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       @futurebird @sashin @Bron1954 Unscientific experiment: Many years ago, a section of my house siding was replaced, revealing many carpenter ants. Just to see what would happen, I scooped a few dozen into a plastic bag and put them into the freezer… Took that bag out into sunlight a *year* later, and was amazed to see about a third revived. Back in the freezer the survivors went for another year, then again into sunlight, and about a third of *those* revived! Tough little things, eh?
       
 (DIR) Post #AjFQOEa6AXWYD0FOkK by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2024-06-24T09:03:36Z
       
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       @iDGS @sashin @Bron1954 When you found them were they already basically cold?
       
 (DIR) Post #AjFQVJOEglsh9L4chk by iDGS@mas.to
       2024-06-24T09:04:51Z
       
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       @futurebird @sashin @Bron1954 Nope. It was in warm weather.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjGOIQfcIuHhDLtPE0 by wauz@mastodon.de
       2024-06-24T20:14:48Z
       
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       @futurebirdSpiders need their cobwebs. But it is no problem, if you remove them once in a while. You just warn spiders by shaking the web. After that, they build a new one and continue to eat flies. You don't need to love them. Just coexistence. @Bron1954 @LordCaramac