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 (DIR) Post #AjArEEFkGEEDGbNhEO by RealJournalism@mastodon.social
       2024-06-20T10:30:25Z
       
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       Normally, I don't care what climate protesters do, but Stonehenge??? Why? #ClimateChange https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2024/06/are-extreme-stunt-climate-activists-like-extinction-rebellion-and-just-stop-oil-actually-fossil-fuel-industry-stooges-they-might-as-well-be.html
       
 (DIR) Post #AjArEFiqnV6VpA0SEi by Hellybootwader@mastodon.scot
       2024-06-20T10:58:12Z
       
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       @RealJournalism BBC reporting it’s all cleaned up already - was coloured cornstarch
       
 (DIR) Post #AjArEGglCl1goy2IcK by RealJournalism@mastodon.social
       2024-06-20T14:41:23Z
       
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       @Hellybootwader Good. I still don't get why Stonehenge.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjArEHTKIBsHFal5Jg by Hellybootwader@mastodon.scot
       2024-06-20T14:53:25Z
       
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       @RealJournalism Here’s what they say: I just searched for it. https://juststopoil.org/2024/06/19/its-time-for-megalithic-action-just-stop-oil-decorate-stonehenge/
       
 (DIR) Post #AjArEIDPWqjnYWJt9E by skydog@sfba.social
       2024-06-20T20:09:55Z
       
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       @Hellybootwader @RealJournalism Okay, they've got my attention.Now, keelhaul them.  And to placate their cause, make it a sailing ship.NOBODY TOUCHES STONEHENGE!
       
 (DIR) Post #AjArEIv0ujcFjkii6y by Hellybootwader@mastodon.scot
       2024-06-20T20:28:45Z
       
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       @skydog @RealJournalism Don’t worry, it’s all fixed. Interesting questions to ask yourself:Why is Stonehenge so much more significant than, say, the air we breathe? Or koalas as a species? We should feel angry against the polluters including those pouring untreated sewage into the rivers. Why issue your venom on the protesters (when no actual damage has been done)? I don’t need to know your answers, but find it interesting to think about  who we get angry at & why.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjArEJaqPD4npUI7JQ by skydog@sfba.social
       2024-06-20T20:36:04Z
       
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       @Hellybootwader @RealJournalism I'm not angry at the protesters, per se.  I am more than angry that they consider things totally outside the purvue of anything to do with the subject they are protesting as targets.  That's a form of terrorism.  What conceit!But "no damage done"!  There is always damage, just that sometimes it can be fixed.  They're angry?  Fine.  Meet my angry.  Nothing is accomplished.I support the cause.  I will jail them for the conduct.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjArEKLdbEVUAcBUFU by Hellybootwader@mastodon.scot
       2024-06-20T20:49:01Z
       
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       @skydog @RealJournalism I'm not sure if putting corn starch on rocks is terrorism. Yes, it's a culturally significant place, and probably got more attention for all that. Glad to hear you support the cause. It is difficult to know the best way to try and make the world better, I guess they are trying to do so, the same as you and I but Just Stop Oil have chosen to try different methods than maybe either of us would.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjArELH49iRb2j3LlI by rameshgupta@mastodon.social
       2024-06-20T21:52:23Z
       
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       ⬆️ @Hellybootwader @skydog @RealJournalismPutting corn starch on rocks is not #terrorism, but it is #vandalism and must be prosecuted fully, and without giving oxygen to the cause.The whole practice of pouring tomato juice on works of art and splashing paint on Mona Lisa will grind to a halt if we stop mentioning the reason for protest and start prosecuting the vandals’ actions.Protests for anything, no matter the cause, do not confer special rights on protesters to vandalize and terrorize.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjArEM539sQVXkRGfg by Hellybootwader@mastodon.scot
       2024-06-20T22:15:34Z
       
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       @rameshgupta @skydog @RealJournalism sorry but I don't understand why people are so upset by these forms of protest, it's superficial, makes the point, there is some tidying up, sure, but no one has been hurt. I was shocked by the first art attack, but then stopped to wonder why, when no damage had occurred, and whether if damage had occurred that it would be so much worse than the potential climate fueled disasters we are heading for. People are already dying because we did not act in time
       
 (DIR) Post #AjArEMp8OXI1qg04VE by rameshgupta@mastodon.social
       2024-06-20T22:50:39Z
       
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       ⬆️ @Hellybootwader @skydog @RealJournalism>> I was shocked by the first art attack, but then stopped to wonder why, when no damage had occurredWhy were you “shocked” at first?If someone brandishes a gun but doesn’t shoot, is there any damage?The Louvre and Stonehenge are not seats of Power. There are designated spaces for protests, rules to secure proper permits, and laws lay out what kind of conduct is acceptable.Why is it ok to flout those & encourage copycats until damage does occur?
       
 (DIR) Post #AjArENXniT1E5Ctk7k by rameshgupta@mastodon.social
       2024-06-20T23:21:08Z
       
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       ⬆️ @Hellybootwader @skydog @RealJournalism That’s my wife at The Louvre. The place was empty as attendance was thin due to peak COVID. We did not harass anybody, nor interfered in their enjoyment of the masterpiece. I was still admonished for taking that picture. Was there any damage?
       
 (DIR) Post #AjArEOHsx7skO8SXxI by MoiraEve@mastodon.world
       2024-06-21T01:04:49Z
       
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       @rameshgupta No flash, right? @Hellybootwader @skydog @RealJournalism
       
 (DIR) Post #AjArEOrgo0WQBBD8lM by rameshgupta@mastodon.social
       2024-06-21T01:11:46Z
       
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       ⬆️ @MoiraEve @Hellybootwader @skydog @RealJournalism >> No flash, right?Correct.This hall in The Louve was brightly lit. Most modern smartphone cameras do not need flash in such lighting.Sistene Chapel was not brightly lit and would’ve required a flash. We did not take any pictures there 🙂
       
 (DIR) Post #AjArEPFRNhWLMqK6me by MoiraEve@mastodon.world
       2024-06-21T02:13:30Z
       
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       @rameshgupta What was the Vatican like inside? I stood only outside it, I thought it was a very pretty building on the outside. @Hellybootwader @skydog @RealJournalism
       
 (DIR) Post #AjArEPg1mqmuhIlLE0 by rameshgupta@mastodon.social
       2024-06-21T02:23:50Z
       
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       ⬆️ @MoiraEve @Hellybootwader @skydog @RealJournalism>> What was the Vatican like inside? I stood only outside it, I thought it was a very pretty building on the outside.Some of the best art, sculpture, and classical architecture I’ve ever seen — pure poetry.We were very lucky that there was no crowd when we visited.I can post some of my favorite pics in this thread if you’re interested, and I’ll not tag others in case they are not interested. Anybody who is interested can still see those.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjArEQ826jBo69rhsO by rameshgupta@mastodon.social
       2024-06-21T02:39:37Z
       
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       ⬆️ @MoiraEve Laocoön and His Sons
       
 (DIR) Post #AjArEQYGXCAnPW8elU by rameshgupta@mastodon.social
       2024-06-21T02:45:27Z
       
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       ⬆️ @MoiraEve #Satyriscus (Greek).I found this one particularly interesting  because of its strong resemblance to the archetypal pose of#Krishna in #Hindu mythology and religion
       
 (DIR) Post #AjArERHdoUT9gFMtUW by rameshgupta@mastodon.social
       2024-06-21T02:47:31Z
       
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       ⬆️ @MoiraEve
       
 (DIR) Post #AjArERPRLUhw4R17eC by rameshgupta@mastodon.social
       2024-06-21T02:49:16Z
       
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       ⬆️ @MoiraEve This one’s a mosaic on the floor
       
 (DIR) Post #AjArESkON53sDhpMwa by rameshgupta@mastodon.social
       2024-06-21T10:43:53Z
       
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       ⬆️ @MoiraEve This is the baroque dome above St. Peter’s Altar in St. Peter’s Basilica
       
 (DIR) Post #AjArETsEBQvJiIV8nQ by rameshgupta@mastodon.social
       2024-06-21T02:50:53Z
       
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       ⬆️ @MoiraEve
       
 (DIR) Post #AjArEW8xkBUwkmLX9s by rameshgupta@mastodon.social
       2024-06-21T02:53:20Z
       
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       ⬆️ @MoiraEve Fine Tapestry
       
 (DIR) Post #AjArEYMVUnWLdMhNY0 by rameshgupta@mastodon.social
       2024-06-21T02:54:54Z
       
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       ⬆️ @MoiraEve Hard to imagine the size of these tapestries unless there are other objects or people for scale
       
 (DIR) Post #AjArEaOhvaT9wlkAFs by rameshgupta@mastodon.social
       2024-06-21T02:56:41Z
       
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       ⬆️ @MoiraEve Gargantuan tapestries with ultra-fine detail
       
 (DIR) Post #AjArEcUS9CFmRARmUK by rameshgupta@mastodon.social
       2024-06-21T02:58:39Z
       
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       ⬆️ @MoiraEve The ceiling of just one of many labyrinthine hallways
       
 (DIR) Post #AjArEeKbInYq9BqwPQ by rameshgupta@mastodon.social
       2024-06-21T03:00:33Z
       
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       ⬆️ @MoiraEve Gargantuan, floor-to-ceiling, rich oil paintings
       
 (DIR) Post #AjArEgTXKXtgnU36cC by rameshgupta@mastodon.social
       2024-06-21T03:03:40Z
       
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       ⬆️ @MoiraEve My wife is there in the vastness of space. Look at how sparse the attendance was!
       
 (DIR) Post #AjArEjEP5GZhLPzYwa by rameshgupta@mastodon.social
       2024-06-21T03:04:55Z
       
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       ⬆️ @MoiraEve Same stairwell, looking up
       
 (DIR) Post #AjArElDlgbFrW1i5EO by rameshgupta@mastodon.social
       2024-06-21T03:06:22Z
       
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       ⬆️ @MoiraEve Same stairwell, looking up, but from further down
       
 (DIR) Post #AjArEnWz67oYgCiSSe by rameshgupta@mastodon.social
       2024-06-21T03:08:03Z
       
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       ⬆️ @MoiraEve Massive columns, classical architecture
       
 (DIR) Post #AjArEpquT0wPsa3OnQ by rameshgupta@mastodon.social
       2024-06-21T03:09:17Z
       
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       ⬆️ @MoiraEve Unimaginable scale
       
 (DIR) Post #AjArEsLpB2rHd2X7GC by rameshgupta@mastodon.social
       2024-06-21T03:11:54Z
       
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       ⬆️ @MoiraEve #Italians really knew art and architecture (That doesn’t mean others don’t 😉)
       
 (DIR) Post #AjArEufOZFhYoJhm2i by rameshgupta@mastodon.social
       2024-06-21T03:12:45Z
       
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       ⬆️ @MoiraEve
       
 (DIR) Post #AjArEwoKb02PSbtwFU by rameshgupta@mastodon.social
       2024-06-21T03:14:41Z
       
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       ⬆️ @MoiraEve Inside Saint Peter’s Basilica
       
 (DIR) Post #AjArEz7C1qJWbgk1vU by rameshgupta@mastodon.social
       2024-06-21T03:16:00Z
       
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       ⬆️ @MoiraEve So Grand!
       
 (DIR) Post #AjArF1iUM9KqfwCqKu by rameshgupta@mastodon.social
       2024-06-21T03:18:09Z
       
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       ⬆️ @MoiraEve Exquisite sculpture. The folds in the fabrics are carved ultra-realistically in marble
       
 (DIR) Post #AjArF3y9yr3jf7YO2a by rameshgupta@mastodon.social
       2024-06-21T03:19:05Z
       
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       ⬆️ @MoiraEve
       
 (DIR) Post #AjArF6Qaq6zXHss7dY by rameshgupta@mastodon.social
       2024-06-21T03:23:15Z
       
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       ⬆️ @MoiraEve This is the only personal photo I’ll share because I’m so proud of the composition, which was quite accidental btw 🙂
       
 (DIR) Post #AjArF8eUZPIWBZOFZw by rameshgupta@mastodon.social
       2024-06-21T03:24:25Z
       
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       ⬆️ @MoiraEve Again, so massive as to defy imagination
       
 (DIR) Post #AjArFB0BphqHTRYbg0 by rameshgupta@mastodon.social
       2024-06-21T03:28:12Z
       
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       ⬆️ @MoiraEve They are not clowns.#Vatican is a sovereign state inside #Rome. These colorfully dressed people are security guards in duty of the state.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjArFDLt60O2lJixm4 by rameshgupta@mastodon.social
       2024-06-21T03:30:20Z
       
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       ⬆️ @MoiraEve Another wide angle shot
       
 (DIR) Post #AjArFFRdJcAfFiQa0W by rameshgupta@mastodon.social
       2024-06-21T03:32:06Z
       
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       ⬆️ @MoiraEve And a last one showing how vast the space is and how empty it was during the peak of COVID