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(DIR) Post #AizW5D7ofunOSWuWTw by Wolven@ourislandgeorgia.net
2024-06-16T16:51:37Z
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Mastodon has features to limit discovery and visibility, but it really needs features that allow everyone to see your shit but only some people to reply.And if you can't immediately understand a use-case for that, then you need to stop and think about why that is.
(DIR) Post #AizWJZqazVRAz8hqqG by Nonya_Bidniss@mas.to
2024-06-16T16:54:26Z
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@Wolven Yes!
(DIR) Post #AizWsd2R7R4F17xUUC by David@gamepad.club
2024-06-16T17:00:15Z
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@Wolven Hubzilla or Streams has that kind of functionalities
(DIR) Post #AizX2dOsczPh2HEAXw by tirrimas@beige.party
2024-06-16T17:02:35Z
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@Wolven adding on: I'd really like to limit visibility of my posts to people *I* follow, not those who follow me.
(DIR) Post #AizXXMnuNmLqXYaYXQ by Snowshadow@mastodon.social
2024-06-16T17:08:10Z
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@Wolven Yes, you have an excellent point.
(DIR) Post #AizXfjQo8dFn2Clw5Q by RubyJones@smutlandia.com
2024-06-16T17:09:41Z
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@Wolven 1000%This is one of my top desires.
(DIR) Post #AizZ1If8ReAqKyK2Do by servelan@newsie.social
2024-06-16T17:24:45Z
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@Wolven That's available on FB and I believe has saved me from tart responses on more than one occasion after I've poked the bear. Seems legit.
(DIR) Post #AizZExJob7OOC7rT5E by KatM@mastodon.social
2024-06-16T17:27:11Z
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@Wolven I was thinking yesterday how I wished I could mute replies from people I don’t follow instead of having to manually mute or block all the reply guys that show up in a woman’s feed to explain to her how wrong she is. I’m sure this preference crosses into other user demos who tend to draw assoholic comments - as you’ve pointed out.@mekkaokereke
(DIR) Post #AizcIXT6wuqj2ibrRA by theofrancis@mastodon.online
2024-06-16T18:01:27Z
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@Wolven This would approximate the publishing model we had for maybe a couple centuries before social media: Anyone with a printing press could publish, and could decide which replies to publish (eg, letters to the editor). Two main differences: Then, anyone could respond, just not publicly; now, just about anyone can publish online.
(DIR) Post #Aizj55U2NwIyABZlrM by iacore@mastodon.de
2024-06-16T19:17:28Z
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@Wolven you want access control on a federated network?
(DIR) Post #AizjBK11Gi2eyFyYrI by feld@bikeshed.party
2024-06-16T19:18:21.816365Z
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@Wolven problem is you can't stop replies; they're federated everywhere. Your Mastodon server can choose to drop the replies from users who are not supposed to reply, but every other server on the fediverse does not have to enforce it and probably won't. So the replies will still exist, you just won't see them.And then other people who may be permitted to reply may see these replies. And then they'll reply. Now you're receiving replies from users you authorized who are responding to a message you can't see. The thread is broken now.This is a massive drawback of an open, federated protocol.
(DIR) Post #AizmH5nbnTgWur9YYq by ddlyh@topspicy.social
2024-06-16T19:53:16Z
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@Wolven Would be difficult to do with Federation, but it could just not display those replies (or drop them) and not notify you. Would that be OK?
(DIR) Post #AizoTB4hMj5bw2gfT6 by samsoul75@piaille.fr
2024-06-16T20:17:48Z
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@Wolven "And if you can't immediately understand a use-case for that, then you need to stop and think about why that is". Wouldn't it better serve your purpose to explain it?
(DIR) Post #AizwW1dHFXqhlTn0zI by Adam_Cadmon1@mastodon.online
2024-06-16T21:47:51Z
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@Wolven lol you can literally just read the replies to your post and see who has self-selected for a'blockin'.
(DIR) Post #AizwWVjLLYWj6yrHbk by seachanger@alaskan.social
2024-06-16T21:47:44Z
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@Wolven being able to toggle on a “follower only” reply setting would be a game changer
(DIR) Post #AizwWXD9qByBhjobia by r_shivran@literatur.social
2024-06-16T21:38:02Z
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@Wolven I'm saying that on social media the worth of a human being is already measured in follower count, and that the feature you request is a means to enforce that disbalance in power and worth of people.PS: The feature to keep your posts to your followers only does already exist ;-)
(DIR) Post #Aizx2D1iQDn8MzZCYS by PhoenixSerenity@beige.party
2024-06-16T21:43:36Z
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@Wolven Absolutely agree.
(DIR) Post #AizxCQewagHvXxmy5A by r_shivran@literatur.social
2024-06-16T21:23:37Z
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@Wolven That's an issue of people like you, who have followers, people who have a voice that's heard by others.I'm a nobody.You're right, we're talking about different positions.You talk about how annoying it is that despite the power of having followers you might have to deal with a nobody like me.I'm talking about having to watch me erased by people with that power you have.I think we're both talking from experience, don't we.
(DIR) Post #AizxCSRXxSlB4zXITg by Wolven@ourislandgeorgia.net
2024-06-16T21:29:54Z
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@r_shivran I'm sorry, are you saying that the number of my followers should somehow lessen my experience of virulent hate, and my desire to be exposed to it?
(DIR) Post #AizxNSQ2OAmkBo4ioK by r_shivran@literatur.social
2024-06-16T21:06:07Z
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@Wolven Well, I can think of a common usecase: A terf wants to have everybody attack me and make up shit about me and tell other people lies so everybody will block me, and they don't want me to get a chance to correct any of that shit.
(DIR) Post #AizxpT1djAMeB91GRE by krusynth@mastodon.publicinterest.town
2024-06-16T21:04:44Z
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@Wolven they’ve had a feature request open in GitHub for six years. A lot of interesting conversation in the thread. https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/8565
(DIR) Post #AizyaZIGEyflEHFlk8 by Wolven@ourislandgeorgia.net
2024-06-16T21:17:50Z
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@r_shivran And what about if you need to be able to discuss your experience in public, but don't want to have to deal with the flood of terves or sealions or other bad faith assholes, in order to do it, even to the extent of having to see it before you block them or their instance?
(DIR) Post #Aj00171PYvFxJpapgO by shonin@mastodon.world
2024-06-16T22:27:16Z
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@Wolven I had need while active on fb to have only friends and friends of friends see my posts and only friends comment, with many friends unfollowed and a couple of dozen blocked from seeing posts. Out of 2K people, most could really only read along, which they were apparently willing to do, and which kept my life relatively unstressed. This mattered as there were real safety issues with being too "out there." I miss some aspects of that arrangement.
(DIR) Post #Aj005lk26q4elcgXDc by noplasticshower@zirk.us
2024-06-16T22:28:06Z
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@Wolven you can use block to simulate that feature
(DIR) Post #Aj01II046A1OFDiZcm by Oggie@woof.group
2024-06-16T22:41:35Z
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@Wolven I genuinely just assumed this was available, but rarely used. Like a 'disable replies/disable for non following/follower /hide but do not disable' or something.This is actually a really good example of why it's going to be important if/when I ever create something intended for a lot of people, that I need to solicit more opinions from people outside of my likeminded cohort (if I then choose to disregard, fine, but it helps to be aware!).
(DIR) Post #Aj01bgXH6EnFqIV4Ge by LLS@wandering.shop
2024-06-16T22:44:58Z
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@Wolven to those jumping in to claim such a feature is impossible and/or unreasonable in a federated system, this feature already exists in Bluesky, which is ostensibly architected for federation. It’s a different protocol so the technical challenges may differ, sure. But the use case seems pretty obvious, federated or not
(DIR) Post #Aj01luQoI4KlpqLrDE by geomant@norden.social
2024-06-16T22:46:53Z
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@Wolven Ok thought about it for some time now.I guess the answer is: 'I know how to host a blog or even a good ol' forum, I understand what social media is supposed to do and I value democratic mechanisms at least to some point.'
(DIR) Post #Aj04HrSZ4ft7nGXHqC by CatDragon@mastodon.world
2024-06-16T23:14:59Z
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@Wolven ehhh I just hold my nose and jump in. Yeah there’s some strange stuff in the water and some of it’s hostile but that’s kind of the entire social interaction thing online or IRL.
(DIR) Post #Aj07OM32Yo2UGHNvY8 by ch0ccyra1n@emeraldsocial.org
2024-06-16T23:49:50Z
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@Wolven absolutely! I think the biggest problem with most existing fediverse software is the lack of granularity. This is probably the most clear example
(DIR) Post #Aj081LBRhxtysGuGiO by starkraving666@jorts.horse
2024-06-16T23:56:44Z
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@Wolven I'm not understanding how blocking users or instances doesn't meet this need, unless the real goal is to not have to do any kind of moderation of your own internet consumption?
(DIR) Post #Aj08RKL3TLofmanBr6 by TheJen@beige.party
2024-06-17T00:00:48Z
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@Wolven BINGO
(DIR) Post #Aj0KCtA2v6fQtAWb6u by tess@mastodon.social
2024-06-17T02:13:26Z
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@Wolven all of the people telling you why it can't be done technically when it's an open source platform and the big brains can just add new machinery if they really want
(DIR) Post #Aj0LVKl19kQfdzB2bg by kissane@mas.to
2024-06-17T02:27:59Z
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@Wolven The state of your replies is the clearest and best argument for reply gating anyone could summon. ☠️
(DIR) Post #Aj0Wm1tJeVSVYBDqE4 by dgoldsmith@mastodon.social
2024-06-17T04:34:11Z
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@Wolven On the list at https://joinmastodon.org/roadmap:MAS-37 Restrict who can reply to a postAs always, the project is resource-constrained.
(DIR) Post #Aj0Ydb4NgqcxxMVLiy by aardvark@ioc.exchange
2024-06-17T04:55:07Z
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@Wolven I’ve seen cases where I can’t reply (or even boost) and it seems to be because I’m not a follower or they don’t follow me (unsure). But this setting seems to maybe be that control. So maybe this is helpful?
(DIR) Post #Aj0nnqNp6l33euwVu4 by alper@rls.social
2024-06-17T07:45:01Z
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@Wolven @tante Every time I’ve tried to limit something on Mastodon, I haven’t been able to.
(DIR) Post #Aj0p4j8hOU644MTzs0 by fabiscafe@mstdn.social
2024-06-17T07:59:21Z
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@Wolven If I remember correctly, this is blocked on the mastodon side, because nobody knows how to implement it via ActivityPub.All mastodon could do would be to limit your ability to see the replies. They would still be there.
(DIR) Post #Aj0pKiKgA3VyCUi3d2 by vanderZwan@vis.social
2024-06-17T08:02:16Z
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@Wolven it feels like such a basic and uncontroversial feature to add too
(DIR) Post #Aj1PBE1J5bzTvpQIJU by lffontenelle@mastodon.social
2024-06-17T14:43:50Z
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@Wolven I don't have a strong opinion either way. Perhaps, and I just guessing here, this was a conscious decision to emphasize two-ways conversations instead of "building your followership". If so, it might be a good decision or not. Withholding quote posting was de deliberate but eventually the developers changed their mind and it's in the roadmap.
(DIR) Post #Aj1TsoAEywlgIcdh5s by Jestbill@mastodon.world
2024-06-16T19:38:26Z
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@corbden I dunno who you are or what you're about, but you will be blocked soon. I block bad attitudes.Privilege my ass!
(DIR) Post #Aj1m4nsHgP9U3E6rei by Aviva_Gary@noc.social
2024-06-17T18:06:24Z
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@Wolven this would be so good...
(DIR) Post #Aj2ATZp3Sm8MbnweDQ by Moosader@mastodon.gamedev.place
2024-06-17T23:33:50Z
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@Wolven Or "I must star at least 3 of your own posts on your own account before you can reply on mine" 😏
(DIR) Post #Aj4E66F3qsZONOWMMq by dragonvalley@mastodon.cloud
2024-06-18T23:23:51Z
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@WolvenThere is nothing about that sentiment that makes sense.
(DIR) Post #Aj5Zod5BP9JzAPw2JU by djasa@cztwitter.cz
2024-06-19T15:01:54Z
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@Wolven@GwenTheKween , related: https://mas.to/@kissane/112641036624409139
(DIR) Post #Aj6jfagw7Pt1qQsmno by jackemled@furry.engineer
2024-06-20T04:27:02Z
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@Wolven I think Twitter used to have something like that. It was useful! I would like to have that here.