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(DIR) Post #Aiz4dzvUwSXiwWwrBI by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-16T11:44:31Z
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I decided to find out if any progress had been made on the science behind why some ants are attracted to electrical fields. After filtering out exterminators (it's so demoralizing to search for information on creatures you love and find nothing but people who know nothing about them boasting about how they will kill them all) I found what looked like a blog. But, who the heck is "James Brown"? Never heard of the dude. Maybe he could be my new friend if he likes ants enough to blog about them!
(DIR) Post #Aiz51prM1PQifgNPv6 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-16T11:48:52Z
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As far as I can tell these people are phantoms. That's cruel on multiple levels. If I was not familiar with this SEO trick I'd spend time looking for them both (to politely tell them about the errors in their blog... which I would assume they would care about since they love insects.)But I know what this is now. It's probably the exterminators. To get their page ranks up they need "legitimate" pages... like personal blogs by enthusiasts to link to them. They are pretending to be *ME*š”š³š©
(DIR) Post #Aiz5A1o3UIdU2YjxJ2 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-16T11:50:20Z
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I wish James and Tina were real. I hate this so much.
(DIR) Post #Aiz5CHER6hKUSd9UDw by rysiek@mstdn.social
2024-06-16T11:50:44Z
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@futurebird ugh, that's obnoxious :blobcat0_0:
(DIR) Post #Aiz5JMEysnby1RmcWO by Gorfram@beige.party
2024-06-16T11:51:59Z
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@futurebird The hardest-working man in show business?
(DIR) Post #Aiz5U4xFUZYhb1bLhw by wa7iut@mastodon.radio
2024-06-16T11:53:56Z
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@futurebird only James Brown I know šhttps://youtu.be/xeSwrFKFNFw?si=yGyMyx2kZC-ZomjB
(DIR) Post #Aiz5ZWTUbIaeOcHMFk by knowuh@mastodon.social
2024-06-16T11:54:57Z
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@futurebird seo is soooooooo annoying. The internet was supposed to be a platform for sharing information. Itās degraded into algorithms for capturing eyeballs and advertising $$$We need to reevaluate how we define āvalueā in our culture.
(DIR) Post #Aiz5bIb5AU1Nw0fyM4 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-16T11:55:12Z
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We are expected to take this kind of BS as "harmless gaming of the system." but I find it incredibly distrustful and hurtful. It's making it harder for people to find each other by putting all these fake people in the way. It's LIES the pages are full of half-true nonsense. It's making people know less and filling their heads with false facts. And this kind of page is what you find FIRST. You won't find @alexwild or the formiculture forum. You find these mendacious SEO ghosts.
(DIR) Post #Aiz5sXMVWeXmeN4vYG by wmd@chaos.social
2024-06-16T11:58:21Z
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@futurebird @alexwild SEO and the marketing as a whole are toxic as fuck. They want to push themselves in your space, without your consent only to gain more power/money. There is not a single acceptable thing about it ...
(DIR) Post #Aiz60buUV2op4Yp7wG by EVDHmn@ecoevo.social
2024-06-16T11:59:50Z
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@futurebird @alexwild Ah yeah, my partner does editing, not on bugs, mostly Japanese swords and they are into them. Not a ghost š by nature.
(DIR) Post #Aiz6Bp3NyNtH1PKXnE by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-16T12:01:52Z
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@wmd @alexwild These fake pages ought to be blacklisted to oblivion. But I don't see any search engines taking this seriously at all. Not really in their interest to do that. We need to make more noise about just how terrible these pages are. Fake experts? Fake people? Fake images? Fake facts?Information pollution & fragmentation of natural networks of human learning. A rot on the body of human knowledge: any search engine that puts such pages at the top should be ashamed.
(DIR) Post #Aiz6SJTcd08E0jSvZo by knowuh@mastodon.social
2024-06-16T12:04:17Z
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@futurebird back in the early days of the internet people maintained curated indexes and āweb ringsā of mutual trust and respect. Maybe we can mine the last to inform the future we want to create?
(DIR) Post #Aiz6cCbd1plnb4vTf6 by va2lam@mastodon.nz
2024-06-16T12:06:23Z
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@futurebird have you seen https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/brv.12804? I saw sections about bumblebees and honeybees but not ants.
(DIR) Post #Aiz6hjeJbMivWjoxyC by albertcardona@mathstodon.xyz
2024-06-16T12:07:24Z
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@futurebird "Here is what you need to know" is like a giant red flag, part of a new language and culture that makes marks out of those who don't know it.
(DIR) Post #Aiz6riTko94gnEdlwm by mastobit@awscommunity.social
2024-06-16T12:09:26Z
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@futurebird @wmd @alexwild Some are beginning to go back to actual, physical encyclopedias given the increased unreliability of search.I went looking for a Wikipedia article two days ago. Had no problem finding it any other time. Now? I have to put extra words in or choose alternative phrases. š¤¦āāļø
(DIR) Post #Aiz6vTltQp1qKxv34K by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-16T12:09:41Z
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@medley56 @wmd @alexwild I live in fear of the day that things that look like academic papers, formatted and written like academic papers start popping up all over the place but they will just be generated nonsense. So I will need to go to the journal's webpage (if they have one) and look up the paper to see if they really published it before I read anything (if the journal lets you do that without subscribing)And then I'll need to also check if the journal is a real one too.
(DIR) Post #Aiz70I1oWIpXMdeyG0 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-16T12:10:59Z
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@medley56 @wmd I already do this if I'm doing any serious research, but part of learning is exploratory. Needing to suspect that EVERY sentence could be a lie kills the momentum. I'm not a professional scientist. I'm just an enthusiastic amateur. I have a full time job and don't have the time to do all that all of the time. I should be able to read a damn blog about ants without being worried a machine is feeding me lies from a ghost.
(DIR) Post #Aiz7Go1tJ9KpFPZUXo by richpuchalsky@mastodon.social
2024-06-16T12:13:00Z
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@futurebird I would find and dust off my "why LLMs are horrible for librarians" thread, but there are too many catastrophes these days.@wmd @alexwild
(DIR) Post #Aiz7awiwgxJY0LJUv2 by BorisBarbour@mastodon.social
2024-06-16T12:17:34Z
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@futurebird @medley56 @wmd @alexwild Have you installed the PubPeer browser and Zotero extensions?https://pubpeer.com/static/extensions
(DIR) Post #Aiz7pRlA6AG0JYGSga by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-16T12:20:12Z
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@BorisBarbour @medley56 @wmd @alexwild I don't have institutional access to most journals so many of these systems are of limited value for me. I tend to find pdfs of journal articles I want to read when they aren't behind a paywall or if I can get the author to send it to me. Will these extensions help with that? Amateurs doing self study like me don't have access to many of the tools that those working in the system might have.
(DIR) Post #Aiz7yaFXtyrvFgpicq by amberage@eldritch.cafe
2024-06-16T12:21:51Z
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@futurebird @medley56 @wmd @alexwild isn't that day today already?
(DIR) Post #Aiz84dDNn4xOBZhmoi by wa7iut@mastodon.radio
2024-06-16T12:22:57Z
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@futurebird @wmd @alexwild I wonder if a non-profit search engine is possible. I canāt believe Google is willing to burn down their brand like this. Also, an opening for curated information services like Wikipedia and Encylopedia Brittanica.I was initially skeptical of Wikipedia and I feel a little bad about the article I contributed about hummingbirds hitching rides on the backs of geese (it didnāt last long) but Wikipedia has proven very reliable for what I need.
(DIR) Post #Aiz86Oat7bWbQ2Xb5U by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-16T12:23:21Z
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@amberage @medley56 @wmd @alexwild So far there have been some fake papers submitted to journals and I think a few even got "published" but at time of posting if you find something that looks like a paper that says it's from Journal X it's probably really just that. But I don't expect it to stay that way forever.
(DIR) Post #Aiz8GYOxVoJkjTnxxY by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-16T12:25:08Z
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@amberage @medley56 @wmd If you are looking at papers on a controversial topic eg. COVID there is already a lot of fake stuff out there. But on "boring" science topics, things like a description of a new species of ant? One can trust a paper most of the time. But, my trust has been deeply shaken and I check now and then, and look for the signs of the rot spreading regularly.
(DIR) Post #Aiz8LCe9p7bEi18AdM by albertcardona@mathstodon.xyz
2024-06-16T12:25:32Z
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@futurebird @BorisBarbour @medley56 @wmd @alexwild #unpaywall helps https://unpaywall.org/Links to PDFs in author pages or institutional repositories help, conveniently listed in Google Scholar search results. Likewise for the Scholar Archive https://scholar.archive.org and @OpenAlex https://openalex.org#academia
(DIR) Post #Aiz8OhrSE2AoO61LzE by DrGeof@mastodon.social
2024-06-16T12:26:04Z
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@futurebird @medley56 @wmd @alexwild Methinks we are already "there".
(DIR) Post #Aiz8QPMxwqljcEZVBI by va2lam@mastodon.nz
2024-06-16T12:26:33Z
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@futurebird @BorisBarbour @medley56 @wmd @alexwild yeah the other advantage of working in one's field of expertise is that it's easier to spot fake authors
(DIR) Post #Aiz8Sl8pyGDZih5HQe by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-16T12:27:02Z
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@wa7iut @wmd I make a monthly contribution to wikipedia. I used to have many problems with them (and still do) but I realized how lost I'd be if they ever became like the rest of the web. I need them to be the way that they are.
(DIR) Post #Aiz8XVkacd6dQv0a5g by kritischelezer@mastodon.social
2024-06-16T12:27:54Z
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@futurebird @medley56 @wmd @alexwild Yeah, that is a fear I share. Especially if the real research remains behind paywalls, and the fake ones will obviously be open access. Guess which ones will be shared more. Try fighting fake news then.. I guess, as bad as it is, it is one more argument to make all research Open Access.
(DIR) Post #Aiz99QlFcXYexmOo1Q by MrAdamJohn@mysocial.community
2024-06-16T12:35:01Z
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@futurebird @medley56 @wmd This is the core of the problem IMHO... Summing up this thread in my own words: There is an erosion of Trust, an undermining of Human connection and an en-garbage-ification of information. I fear the permutations on today's known "attack vectors" and the results that will be manufactured...
(DIR) Post #Aiz9L5MmzUaK5HVyls by nathaliaassaad@mastodon.world
2024-06-16T12:37:04Z
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@futurebird @wa7iut @wmd Me too!I use their website almost daily. Every time I use my phone to ID a plant, I am directed to Wikipedia to confirm the information. I adore Wikipedia and I feel that I can help protect it with my small contribution. I use iNaturalist to triple confirm or when Wikipedia and my phone ID function arenāt helpful, but they usually help.
(DIR) Post #Aiz9pmRtNOOcOBXQQa by wa7iut@mastodon.radio
2024-06-16T12:42:37Z
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@futurebird @wmd Iāve been contributing too, though annually and recommend everyone who uses it also contribute what you can. They are generally the first place I look for information. The techical articles in the areas I know about have been very good quality. Certainly should be supported. Anything free means youāre the product.
(DIR) Post #AizAUIB4pRX2NSzSyG by martin_piper@mastodon.social
2024-06-16T12:50:01Z
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@futurebird @amberage@eldritch.cafe @medley56 @wmd @alexwild I remember this deliberate fake paper to expose the "journal".https://retractionwatch.com/2024/01/17/the-singapore-sting-why-an-activist-published-a-fake-paper-on-lgbtq-child-acceptance/
(DIR) Post #AizAkz80uJ3oDgW8OG by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-16T12:53:01Z
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@meena Maybe it's a story of a transition. Shall we write an extended fan-fiction universe about the cool scientists we wish existed?
(DIR) Post #AizB3qnE7bcts1n3QW by Haste@mastodon.social
2024-06-16T12:56:25Z
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@futurebird I bet the headshots are AI generated, too :/
(DIR) Post #AizB5qwOXideuN27vs by mistergibson@mastodon.social
2024-06-16T12:34:04Z
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@wa7iut @futurebird @wmd @alexwild Someone turned me onto this: https://www.ecosia.org/they plant trees with ad revenue --> very cool
(DIR) Post #AizB5sBfuOSIm3BqO8 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-16T12:56:29Z
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@mistergibson @wa7iut @wmd I don't have a good feeling about this. "Planting trees" is almost a red flag for me at this point since very few people seem to understand how complex and the real investment needed to plant a tree. You can't just spam saplings and expect a forest. A forest is a living complex system easier to preserve than it is to build. "planting trees?" Really? What kind? Are they native species? Who will care for them in the critical first years? Who owns the land?
(DIR) Post #AizBIkSbwqA0ZfFdZo by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-16T12:59:09Z
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@mistergibson @wa7iut @wmd Tree planting schemes have been used as green-washing more often than they have been sincere or effective means to care for the earth. Some "tree planting" operations are just logging companies who sell the rights of their monoculture fields to companies who want to claim they planted trees. The trees are harvested years later. In NYC we planted millions of trees. But they just sent saplings and let amateurs spam them wherever. Years later they have all died.
(DIR) Post #AizBN3kw9KSxZosXi4 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-16T12:59:57Z
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@mistergibson @wa7iut @wmd This is why I'm deeply suspicious of anyone who claims to be "planting X trees when you do Y" These are just indulgences of our modern time.
(DIR) Post #AizBTkaJpHYg946QHA by nathaliaassaad@mastodon.world
2024-06-16T13:01:05Z
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@futurebird @mistergibson @wa7iut @wmd Iāve used Ecosia for many years and had the same fears, but theyāre a good company. They have different projects. Itās not random.
(DIR) Post #AizBWr5U6cZTBKA1Vg by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-16T13:01:41Z
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@Haste Let's hope so. It would suck to have your photo used for something like this.
(DIR) Post #AizBanK82dGWfOtADA by stevenbodzin@thepit.social
2024-06-16T13:01:42Z
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@futurebird the system is dead
(DIR) Post #AizBcWJSG5IuUIOdW4 by sheamusfitz@im-in.space
2024-06-16T13:02:35Z
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@futurebird @mistergibson @wa7iut @wmd šthe more you knowš (the more you hate everything)
(DIR) Post #AizBfJg7gnEKAhKgMq by stevenbodzin@thepit.social
2024-06-16T13:03:13Z
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@futurebird @wmd @alexwild my old blog, a real labor of love that i spent 4 years on but haven't touched in years, is now completely deindexed by google. I search for pages using their exact text and can't find them.
(DIR) Post #AizBjX1m00d6jQT9qi by CatDad@mas.to
2024-06-16T13:03:21Z
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@futurebird @mistergibson @wa7iut @wmd Here's my sure-fire way to help by planting trees:1. Kill a billionaire.2. Take all their wealth and invest into green power, repairing damaged ecosystems, etc.3. Plant a tree on the billionaire's grave.
(DIR) Post #AizBqY9GEM5YEcJmPg by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-16T13:05:15Z
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@mistergibson @wa7iut @wmd I still think the NYC tree planting events were good for the community. People got together and dug around in the soils of their local parks and medians. We noticed the little wild places tucked between the buildings and met other people who cared. I think a better event could feature:* identifying insects and wildlife* better guides for the local groups* planting native PLANTS not just trees* weeding species that don't fit* housing for bees and ants
(DIR) Post #AizBw39kN65rqsAU0u by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-16T13:06:15Z
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@mistergibson @wa7iut @wmd So if you planed a tree and it died don't feel so bad. We can't just spend a day planting trees and call our problems solved. We all need to learn a lot more about the ecosystems we live in.
(DIR) Post #AizC2fj1sxvnD1pRvk by mistergibson@mastodon.social
2024-06-16T13:07:23Z
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@futurebird @wa7iut @wmd I agree --> I'm Co-Founder of this group:https://www.cascadiacommons.org/
(DIR) Post #AizC5J4cYp3PpCBUiO by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-16T13:07:45Z
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@stevenbodzin @wmd @alexwild My blog is also long gone, and a squatter has my domain and wants $7k to give it back. I couldn't keep up with the fees when I was in grad school. It had tons of pages on math and education ... I can still find most on the wayback machine.
(DIR) Post #AizCFCDKv1G9RjybuC by mcc@mastodon.social
2024-06-16T13:09:42Z
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@futurebird @mistergibson @wa7iut @wmd "Those trees you plantedā do they happen to be on wood harvesting plantations? Are you literally planting them to cut them down in 30 years?"
(DIR) Post #AizCUgRMoutjXFvN3Y by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-16T13:12:27Z
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@futurebird @mistergibson @wa7iut @wmd Next youāll tell me carbon offsets are a scam.
(DIR) Post #AizCjzc9oWPNLXGt84 by tseitr@mastodon.sdf.org
2024-06-16T13:15:10Z
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@futurebirdyou can get them back with wget --mirror https://winaero.com/make-offline-copy-of-a-site-with-wget-on-windows-and-linux/amp/
(DIR) Post #AizCngQN6W34zIWD3I by mmby@mastodon.social
2024-06-16T13:15:43Z
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@futurebird @mistergibson @wa7iut @wmd yeah, my family has tried to raise about 2 hectar of mixed forest for about 30 years - it's insane how many of the trees planted didn't make it even if they mean well, one planted sapling isn't one tree in the end, it's 90% deer breakfast
(DIR) Post #AizDRQGeasLCSgvEzg by mansr@society.oftrolls.com
2024-06-16T13:23:06Z
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@futurebird @amberage @medley56 @wmd @alexwild People have managed to get SciGen "papers" published.
(DIR) Post #AizDRZRyS9kAwPHuO8 by Azuaron@hachyderm.io
2024-06-16T13:22:40Z
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@aral @futurebird @mistergibson @wa7iut @wmd I do believe there was literally a big criminal bust in Brazil regarding a carbon offsets company that was using the money dedicated to carbon offsets to log the rainforest.
(DIR) Post #AizDkFplbsq5bXKGFE by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-16T13:25:51Z
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@Azuaron @futurebird @mistergibson @wa7iut @wmd Clearly the sarcasm in my post didnāt come through :)
(DIR) Post #AizDo5nWrkSrdW6pnc by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-16T13:26:50Z
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@RnDanger @futurebird @mistergibson @wa7iut @wmd Yep, it was pure organic sarcasm.
(DIR) Post #AizE6Mt24L4jqgOjB2 by Azuaron@hachyderm.io
2024-06-16T13:30:18Z
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@futurebird @mistergibson @wa7iut @wmd Definitely be skeptical, there's a ton of outright scams.However, my understanding of what Ecosia's doing--unless they're outright lying--is that they partner with different local ecological organizations that specifically aim to rebuild biodiversity in damaged environments. One of their efforts in Brazil is even more about "fighting illegally set fires by ranchers that want to turn forests into grazing land" than it is "plant a bunch of trees".
(DIR) Post #AizE8oDTQe9FBo7gVE by RogerBW@emacs.ch
2024-06-16T13:30:56Z
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@futurebird The old cheatneutral did a good job of pointing out how silly this is. Thanks, Internet Archive! https://web.archive.org/web/20130821081616/http://www.cheatneutral.com/
(DIR) Post #AizEALAwNBZLhSfVFA by Azuaron@hachyderm.io
2024-06-16T13:30:50Z
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@aral No, it did, I was just adding some recent specific news I saw to it.
(DIR) Post #AizEPs4AMtLe3JuBsm by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-16T13:33:42Z
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@Azuaron š
(DIR) Post #AizExLl8zTefhUyJSC by itty53@beige.party
2024-06-16T13:39:54Z
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@futurebird @mistergibson @wa7iut @wmd I'll go one further. All those national drives from India and similar areas to plant billions of trees? It's just free labor for capitalism. They're planting lumber forests, and it's done by volunteers. Renewable yeah, but that's just lining billionaire pockets, folks who own thousands of acres for those projects. New growth trees are carbon neutral at best.
(DIR) Post #AizFBdMIM0DwL09yjI by indigoparadox@mastodon.social
2024-06-16T13:42:30Z
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@futurebird James Brown is dead.
(DIR) Post #AizFI3bzerGXUwZ8SG by alec@perkins.pub
2024-06-16T13:43:29Z
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@futurebird @mistergibson @wa7iut @wmd planting trees for the sake of trees, forests, and communities is great. Planting trees for the sake of capitalism, not so much.
(DIR) Post #AizFksrMiGMkY6V90q by botvolution@mastodon.sdf.org
2024-06-16T13:48:55Z
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@futurebird The profile images are quite "old fashioned" (in current technology terms) GAN generated images, probably from thispersondoesnotexist dot com.Once you're familiar with the type and "have your eye in" they become easy to spot even in thumbnails. Any content using them is almost always suspect.Note the coincidence of major facial features (eyes & mouth especially).Newer tech versions are often *much* more difficult to spot.
(DIR) Post #AizFmeqRn4zXf6uxqy by piratero@mastodon.world
2024-06-16T13:49:16Z
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@futurebird @mistergibson @wa7iut @wmd I will say this activities frees more seats at restaurants, plays and movie house, making me reservations easier. Kudos! Please continue!
(DIR) Post #AizGO2tnJyz4ykJMtE by Byrdbrnz@ioc.exchange
2024-06-16T13:56:05Z
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@futurebird @mistergibson @wa7iut @wmd This is honestly giving me the idea of "natural city tours" that don't just take you to parks or nature preserves, but wander around a city/suburb and point out all the wildlife there -- native and imported. Dole out factoids about each. Add in some kind of identification guide/treasure hunt aspect to get people more engaged. Donate portions of ticket sales to rewilding or other local initiatives to increase native rewilding. Idk you've got to meet people where they are to get them to care. Showing them the nature around them, around where they live, might just spark that for some.
(DIR) Post #AizGu4kDzjNLyB6lhQ by mansr@society.oftrolls.com
2024-06-16T14:01:50Z
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@futurebird I always assumed ants appeared around wall sockets because the wiring conduits provided an easy path for them to get inside at all.
(DIR) Post #AizI6yq9MHUzNNb4gS by Patrickoldhiker@ohai.social
2024-06-16T14:15:26Z
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@futurebird @wmd @wa7iut @mistergibson As someone who lived in New York City 50 years ago, there are a LOT more trees on the streets today. So a good many of them did survive.
(DIR) Post #AizIUt0KhuDsE7l8JE by rivetgeek@dice.camp
2024-06-16T14:19:40Z
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@futurebird And just as bad, the ant picture in the screenshot is AI generated.
(DIR) Post #AizIh7x2xbZw3j3j3w by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-16T14:21:57Z
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@Byrdbrnz @mistergibson @wa7iut I love this idea and I'm thinking it could be a great Senior Thesis project for some of our students to develop and give such a tour in our area. This would let me get some professional dev. hours to develop lesson plans for how to make such a tour (and design one myself, to really learn how to do it right)--And then who knows maybe they will feel like doing it again when they move off to college!I gotta go bug the biology teachers again.
(DIR) Post #AizIr6hWSpxZ4pYZIu by InkySchwartz@mastodon.social
2024-06-16T14:23:19Z
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@aral @Azuaron @futurebird @mistergibson @wa7iut @wmd Please use /s or /sarcasm to indicate the usage of such since text, especially short text, is a poor medium to convey sarcasm clearly.
(DIR) Post #AizJjGWe9WWbBWIIYi by Byrdbrnz@ioc.exchange
2024-06-16T14:33:31Z
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@futurebird Yes!! :ablobcatheartsqueeze: Maybe have them start with their own neighborhoods? There's a lot of life we often overlook in our own streets because we walk by it every day. But definitely consult with the other faculty to help build it out! Hopefully it catches some student's attention and awakens their inner biologist/ecologist!
(DIR) Post #AizJrdfRzkwpH7P9pw by Blort@social.tchncs.de
2024-06-16T14:35:03Z
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@futurebird @mistergibson @wa7iut @wmd I would much rather see $RANDOM_COMPANY pledging to keep an already alive tree protected and alive for an extra year, than this garbage around planting a tree. You can plant a million trees and bulldoze them all the next day. Or just leave them alone without proper water. It's meaningless.Keeping something alive for a specific, defined amount of time... now that's real value, especially if it's part of an already old growth ecosystem.#Climate
(DIR) Post #AizKSrBShkKhuT7nWa by InkySchwartz@mastodon.social
2024-06-16T14:41:43Z
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@futurebird @Byrdbrnz @mistergibson @wa7iut I can help with some plant questions too though I'm a geographer with a thing for native plants.
(DIR) Post #AizPE296ALZnKnlp9k by ploum@mamot.fr
2024-06-16T15:32:10Z
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@nathaliaassaad @futurebird @mistergibson @wa7iut @wmd : the problem is that the use money fromā¦ advertising.The very goal of advertising is to make us consume more and pollute more than what we really need. Advertising money is a very small fraction of the benefits big corpos would not have made if there was no advertising.By definition, everything related to advertising is destroying our ecosystem. Thatās even the goal itself ( because "consuming" == "transforming ressources into trash")
(DIR) Post #AizZ8JMOFWeIWnthtg by Osteopenia_Powers@newsie.social
2024-06-16T17:26:09Z
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@futurebird For the ignorant (like me) SEO stands for Search Engine Optimization.Wow. Sleazy.
(DIR) Post #AizcXClIDcVNAL6iTg by RinostarGames@mastodon.gamedev.place
2024-06-16T18:04:15Z
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@futurebird Wow papa's got a brand new bag... as an entomologist.
(DIR) Post #AizdKkrYDkq77Lf5jU by alison@mastodon.online
2024-06-16T18:13:13Z
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@futurebird Internet Archive is my pet web charity. These various pages are so important. @wa7iut @wmd
(DIR) Post #Aizf0WWm0bBom5QLbs by MennoWolff@ohai.social
2024-06-16T18:31:58Z
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@futurebird @alexwild It's plain old lying, just like fake reviews.Here in Europe afaik, it's now illegal to put up fake reviews of businesses and products. It shouldn't be long until this cr@p is also illegal.
(DIR) Post #AiznPGfEXitG9pLdUu by soaproot@sfba.social
2024-06-16T20:06:04Z
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@futurebird @alexwild Agree this is a lousy situation. I'll offer a slightly optimistic and perhaps even polyanish reaction: what do we need to build which routes around this? I'm not sure what it is either, except that the Fediverse (most of what I've seen so far anyway) appears to be some flavor of step in the right direction.
(DIR) Post #AizxzouPDk2iwcZYIK by dgoldsmith@mastodon.social
2024-06-16T21:13:58Z
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@futurebird @medley56 @wmd @alexwild This conversation made me think of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mimic_(Dungeons_%26_Dragons)
(DIR) Post #Aj0DxAroir7vRd7cO0 by brent@thecanadian.social
2024-06-17T01:03:32Z
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@futurebirdBullshit is an existential threat to civil society. "Free speech" is a giant security hole in the body politic. It has to be more nuanced. A sophisticated society would find a way to encourage sincere discourse, while filtering out noise that destroys it.We cannot function if we cannot communicate.
(DIR) Post #Aj0IMkT9tHvSv42Qro by nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social
2024-06-17T01:53:01Z
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@futurebird @wmd @alexwild Just a thought, but maybe if we remind them that "AI" trained on "AI generated" info actually gets much worse they might take it more seriously. All those fake generated sites feed back into their own LLMs and increases perplexity exponentially. They don't care about what it does to us, but it ultimately affects their bottom line on the product they're throwing every single thing they have behind.
(DIR) Post #Aj0YTFtvXWOVPJgRw8 by wraptile@fosstodon.org
2024-06-17T04:53:28Z
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@futurebird it is a SEO trick as recently google has been ranking up articles with listed authors. You can basically trace back any thing that's ruining the internet back to Google these days š
(DIR) Post #Aj0jlDNsjd5qJGSe8m by lufthans@mastodon.social
2024-06-17T06:59:55Z
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@futurebird search engines have value when they can help us find useful resources and results, when they just find dreck they have no valueexcept that search engines are really just eyeball gatherers for advertising tech ... :(
(DIR) Post #Aj121ZefUzhJBoGNLE by nottrobin@union.place
2024-06-17T10:24:36Z
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@futurebird @BorisBarbour @medley56 @wmd @alexwild I assume you know about https://www.scihub.org/ ?
(DIR) Post #Aj19NQeuKIGjL2k96O by rubinjoni@mastodon.social
2024-06-17T11:46:58Z
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@futurebird @medley56 @wmd Are you aware of the (now retracted, fortunately) scientific paper with AI generated illustrations of absurdly large rat genitalia? It was making rounds on the Fediverse a few months ago. Scientific publishing was already severely flawed before AI slop generation became a thing, and it's going further down the spiral. It really boils down to personal reputation, which also has it's flaws.
(DIR) Post #Aj1PG1juAz8ZI9ZbYu by wmd@chaos.social
2024-06-16T12:41:39Z
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@mistergibson @wa7iut @futurebird @alexwild they're just a google/bing reseller that still focusses on advertising. They just use their profits differently. They solve nothing of the problems discussed and also have no different incentive.
(DIR) Post #Aj29oLZ3ZMbeW0nmPw by lostwax@zirk.us
2024-06-17T23:22:02Z
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@albertcardona @futurebird it's awful but also useful. If you do know the language "here's what you need to know" is an enormous flashing signpost saying what follows is bullshit and can be ignored.
(DIR) Post #Aj29oMXJxIoPWuzuLo by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-17T23:26:34Z
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@lostwax @albertcardona It's a phrase targeting the information overwhelmed. A mind vulnerable to being told something that sounds true and feels true ... but maybe isn't true... but even if it is true it's selectively sending you along. We all get tired and just want someone to tell us "what we need to know"But don't let it be a stranger or a bot! The only people who can say "here's what you need to know" to me is my husband when explaining what flavor of ice-cream he wants me to buy.
(DIR) Post #Aj2AnL9zgdkyvUAAQS by barrygoldman1@sauropods.win
2024-06-17T23:37:37Z
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@futurebird @lostwax @albertcardona brilliant conclusion!
(DIR) Post #Aj2BWnYuw46E2pUrVg by apophis@brain.worm.pink
2024-06-17T23:35:16.124482Z
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@futurebird @lostwax @albertcardona if someone wants their spouse to pick up a specific sort of ice cream i'd normally expect them to just say brand and type, an utterance that's comparable to or shorter than "here's what you need to know"the latter implies there are so many permutations of acceptable ice cream types, each of which may or may not be available at that particular trip, that you're being given flow charts and formulas to work with
(DIR) Post #Aj2BWoL82ofESM3Mem by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-17T23:45:47Z
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@apophis @albertcardona @lostwax That is exactly what is happening. And he knows how easily overwhelmed I get with shopping so he tries to make it simple... but like me he's really picky.