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(DIR) Post #AiOJ6wyFyib5Ug0qu0 by Wolven@ourislandgeorgia.net
2024-05-29T18:02:06Z
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So google is admitting that their product is making misinformation worse and also underestimating how MUCH worsehttps://www.404media.co/google-says-ai-now-leading-disinformation-vector-and-is-severely-undercounting-the-problem/Historically, the next step after this is google saying they're going to "roll back" or "investigate" this "experimental" "preliminary" "AI" overview "feature;" then they're going shutter it and strip it for parts, and never speak of it again.Remember Wave? Yeah. That's what I thought. But at least Wave was useful.And then there's this potential leak of over 2500 pages worth of internal google documents, showing the sausage-making of google search itself:https://www.theverge.com/2024/5/28/24166177/google-search-ranking-algorithm-leak-documents-link-seoOn LinkedIn you can find three classes of reaction to this news: Claims that Google's search is now worthless; Strategies for how to capitalize on the leak; and Denial that the leak means anything at all. All of which says to me that people are straight-up freaking out about where google is right now.I mean, when you— the biggest, shiniest, geekiest tech company in the WORLD— have lost the overarchingly technocratic parade that is LinkedIn? You have well and truly lost the plot.Going to be an interesting next couple of weeks.
(DIR) Post #AiOLL8XZxWDHL5QWrA by negativeprimes@urusai.social
2024-05-29T18:27:06Z
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@Wolven I miss Wave!!!
(DIR) Post #AiOMNJV0HpPBrLp9lY by datarama@hachyderm.io
2024-05-29T18:38:38Z
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@Wolven I doubt they're going to walk this one back. I remember Wave and Google+ too, but I don't think they've ever gone as absolutely all-in on anything in their graveyard as they now have on generative AI.
(DIR) Post #AiOaS7y7ywIGuBdW4G by vic@howcyborgs.chat
2024-05-29T21:16:26Z
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@Wolven Quick, let's petition them to bring back Reader and iGoogle while they're on the back foot :)
(DIR) Post #AiOd4rRNZDOoqVuprk by SydneyJim@mastodon.social
2024-05-29T21:45:49Z
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@Wolven I have never & will never use any Google services.
(DIR) Post #AiOgt3PFeWuEIZXue8 by newstik@social.heise.de
2024-05-29T22:27:56Z
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@Wolven I don't share your optimism that Google will shutter their AI Overview. This is not the Google of 2010.
(DIR) Post #AiOh4NyzUSbtIhfMoa by Wolven@ourislandgeorgia.net
2024-05-29T22:30:39Z
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@newstik It definitely isn't, but they also haven't seen this kind of concerted, all-corners backlash on their work in quite some time, so 🤷🏿♂️
(DIR) Post #AiP2UFv0C5HCr8yfaa by FuckElon@mastodon.social
2024-05-30T02:30:35Z
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@Wolven @Lazarou Wave was awesome!😢
(DIR) Post #AiPDq6RRCy9rKZlkcS by breadbin@bitbang.social
2024-05-30T04:37:47Z
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@Wolven Speaking of Google shutting things down (if it doesn’t sell ads or hover personal information). Circles (G+) wasn’t a bad idea. Wish someone would strip that part and try it again.
(DIR) Post #AiQ2aapjXVu2cPUkeu by troublewithwords@wandering.shop
2024-05-30T14:06:25Z
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@Wolven They're in a staring match with Microsoft, both high on their own LLM hype. It will be interesting to see who blinks first, but given the hype levels I'd be surprised if they do it so soon. (Though I'd be very glad to be wrong on this one.)
(DIR) Post #AiQ92jn2QrowEK2PJI by Wolven@ourislandgeorgia.net
2024-05-30T15:18:44Z
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@dymaxion True; I mean, that's a pattern we've seen before too.
(DIR) Post #AiV3PWc7d8Afet6pyi by Wolven@ourislandgeorgia.net
2024-06-02T00:09:12Z
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What'd I say? I TOLD you! I told you, and you FUCKING DOUBTED ME. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/01/technology/google-ai-overviews-rollback.html?smtyp=cur&smid=bsky-nytimes
(DIR) Post #AiV3ZAm3gVRMosMDUO by Ooze@aus.social
2024-06-02T00:10:46Z
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@Wolven I did not doubt you for a moment.
(DIR) Post #AiV3whgrT9CBZG9ARs by zalasur@mastodon.surazal.net
2024-06-02T00:15:13Z
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@Wolven No doubting from this corner. I *do* expect them to try to beat this dead horse into the ground a few more times before finally throwing in the towel however.
(DIR) Post #AiV4l6lsUd1pplWncu by Wolven@ourislandgeorgia.net
2024-06-02T00:24:20Z
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@jbaggs Again: "getting it right" == "strip it for parts and integrating said parts into other products in ways ranging from unnoticeable to innocuous to outright infuriating."
(DIR) Post #AiV5xTOEK6t7PgvWQy by TG_Esq@mastodon.online
2024-06-02T00:37:45Z
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@Wolven As a user, Google's search has been functionally useless for many search topics for a long time now. I used to click a long way through search results following links to quality content, but now, between the two pages of (mostly) ads, and results pointing to shitty SEO'd ad revenue harvesting sites, it's no longer worth it.
(DIR) Post #AiV7M2neQBCS8j66gS by thepoliticalcat@mastodon.social
2024-06-02T00:53:22Z
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@Wolven I'll NEVER DOUBT YOU AGAIN!!Oh, wait, it wasn't me. Ne'mind.
(DIR) Post #AiVBbqtspYdNgTo2BE by virtualinanity@toot.community
2024-06-02T01:41:04Z
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@Wolven need you to turn your gaze now on Microsoft’s recall. Hopefully it doesn’t take a hacking or horrendous spousal stalking story for them to stop that monstrosity asap
(DIR) Post #AiVFfdpjkq6I8IveZE by Wolven@ourislandgeorgia.net
2024-06-02T02:26:37Z
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@virtualinanity First for MSFT is to quietly disentangle the co-pilot feature from the main windows OS; once they do THAT you'll know they've figured out a way out that let's them save face and market reputation
(DIR) Post #AiVXZ9sk00Jkg3ONhA by leeloo@techhub.social
2024-06-02T05:47:08Z
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@Wolven @virtualinanityThat will take them as long as it took them to detangle Internet Explorer.
(DIR) Post #AiWgKcFDML0T2m0KqO by researchbuzz@researchbuzz.masto.host
2024-06-02T18:59:54Z
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@Wolven THEY HAVE TO! Any search -- AI or otherwise -- without contextual assistance WON'T WORK! Even human librarians can't do it, that's why reference interviews exist!(Pre AI, "contextual assistance" by a sole searcher was post-search query refining)
(DIR) Post #AiWiHXrjNnP0VEgSDw by TheServitor@sigmoid.social
2024-06-02T19:21:52Z
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@Wolven Definitely wouldn't have called it. Having come this far, I thought #Google was just going to charge through blindly. Not that they don't have a history of taking the axe to products all the time. But I thought for sure they would stick to their guns on SGE. And #Bard was the worst (and last) of the first-wave big gen #AI
(DIR) Post #AiWjGF6NlC1xyNTmzo by schrotthaufen@mastodon.social
2024-06-02T19:32:50Z
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@Wolven For once I’m glad google has no problems with sunsetting things.
(DIR) Post #AiWl7UMNrTGSb4uxPc by datarama@hachyderm.io
2024-06-02T19:53:39Z
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@Wolven I doubted you, but this was entirely because I had no faith that Google leadership would actually be able to recognize how ill-advised this was.
(DIR) Post #AiXG0IyJv0VTsy59DU by Salvo@aus.social
2024-06-03T01:39:45Z
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@Wolven “Rolled Back”, not “abandoned”.So no, they still haven’t learned.
(DIR) Post #AiXLTBxlYXQqJgPsuW by Wolven@ourislandgeorgia.net
2024-06-03T02:40:59Z
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@Salvo Or you could read the words I actually wrote where I very clearly said that what was likely next is that FIRST they'd '"roll back" or "investigate"…' *THEN*… shutter it and strip it for parts.'They're not going to STOP using LLMs and Algorithmic "AI"/"ML"; they're just going to stop trying to manufacture public consent for it by jamming it into literally everything they make, especially the places where it does nothing but cause massive problems.And they'll never once say "oops our bad" about it.
(DIR) Post #AihaCRSw6bqKMr4B9s by km6ecc@mastodon.radio
2024-06-08T01:13:06Z
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@Wolven I take you seriously. Good track record.