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 (DIR) Post #AiS4cLz8IxutN2mKkC by interfluidity@zirk.us
       2024-05-31T13:38:52Z
       
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       are you a hypocrite to claim you respect the rule of law if you don’t always respect the speed limit?
       
 (DIR) Post #AiS4oEid97d2JHj3qK by John@socks.masto.host
       2024-05-31T13:41:00Z
       
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       @interfluidity Americans have always had a fuzzy relationship with the law, and I've often thought about that one too. It seems a perfect example of where people think they can cheat a bit, but not too much. "Cheating monkeys, citizen bees" is a book, by the way.
       
 (DIR) Post #AiS5BhDPMaBnLnJAgK by llimllib@hachyderm.io
       2024-05-31T13:45:13Z
       
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       @interfluidity isn't respecting the rule of law accepting and paying your ticket if you get caught speeding, rather than not speeding at all?
       
 (DIR) Post #AiS6BYl0uSlD4ZWezg by admitsWrongIfProven@qoto.org
       2024-05-31T13:56:23Z
       
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       @interfluidity So basically "If you agree to a broad term, are you hypocritical if you differ on details"?   If it is a conscious decision, i would tend to say no.
       
 (DIR) Post #AiS9mWXWPvwmlvX5DU by marick@mstdn.social
       2024-05-31T14:36:43Z
       
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       @interfluidity Feels a bit similar to the “no vehicles in the park” question: does such a sign apply to an ambulence rescuing a person with a heart attack? A child’s toy wagon? Etc.https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/judgment-and-decision-making/article/an-experimental-guide-to-vehicles-in-the-park/163BA48F57F5C4DD8BC886D143043AF7That is, should laws be interpreted strictly according to the words? Or by the purpose behind them? (1/2)
       
 (DIR) Post #AiS9mYzbIVb0NagXGC by marick@mstdn.social
       2024-05-31T14:36:43Z
       
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       Whether the person is a hypocrite depends on where they come down on the question. A textualist would be; one who looks to purpose might not be, reasoning that legislators know people will exceed the speed limit by a fixed amount, and thus set the limit at X rather than X+𝛿. Or that the purpose of the rule is to promote safe driving and, especially on the highway, it's safer to drive at the prevailing speed than slower than everyone else. (2/2)
       
 (DIR) Post #AiSaAKpIDU9SCZrLXc by Transportist@mastodon.social
       2024-05-31T19:32:20Z
       
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       @interfluidity Speeding is bad and puts fellow citizens at risk for personal convenience.  But there is no way to know every law everywhere, and the expectations of that are silly.  You are a hypocrite if you resist the arrest, deny the crime, or claim the judge was corrupt instead of admitting the crime after being proven guilty. In Australia Speed limits go with type of road and are rarely marked, so there’s a lot of guessing.