Post AhVMwouIXYNChKLzQ8 by ProfessorCode@fosstodon.org
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(DIR) Post #AhVGi3kcT9jGfOPAiO by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2024-05-03T04:46:10Z
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I've seen a lot of interesting discussion regarding Mint's choice to downgrade some apps to the GTK3 version, later fork them. Whilst a lot of people have been critical let me provide another perspectiveProjects like Mint do not like the state of GNOME/where it is going, instead of just sitting around whining about how much they don't like it they've taken it upon themselves to fork tools and maintain them for their own project. You may disagree with that choice but this is the spirit of FOSS
(DIR) Post #AhVGr23e8LJY1PaDZ2 by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2024-05-03T04:47:48Z
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The same can be said about COSMIC from System76, they have had serious disagreements with the direction of the project so that said fuck it, we're just going to build our own desktop and run it the way that we want to run it. Could problems just be resolved upstream, maybe. But they have decided that this time has passed, any attempts made didn't go the way they wanted so they've decided to go off and do their own thing.
(DIR) Post #AhVHBnw3pqYOIrwLYm by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2024-05-03T04:51:26Z
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Maybe in the long run all of this is a giant waste of time, GTK3 can no longer be saved, building a desktop on an immature toolkit like Iced just won't work. This is completely possible but I have nothing but respect for developers who actually take it upon themselves to try and resolve what they see as a problem by sitting down and just writing some code.
(DIR) Post #AhVHyne1hnFpagrqEK by weilawei@mastodon.online
2024-05-03T05:00:14Z
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Have they added mobile support to GTK4 yet? (I could be out of date here; I use GTK3.)As a dev, I'm happy with GTK3, and the problem with GTK4 (imo) is that they're trying to adopt mobile idioms without the payoff of supporting mobile platforms. Just makes it harder to write something in GTK4 than GTK3.
(DIR) Post #AhVMwouIXYNChKLzQ8 by ProfessorCode@fosstodon.org
2024-05-03T05:55:59Z
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@BrodieOnLinux Actually, I'd say that Mint is unifying, rather than fragmenting, Linux desktops.There are a bunch of desktops who aren't served by the specific goals and needs of the GNOME Project.By creating a separate "XApp" organization, Mint is choosing to collaborate with all these other desktops to create an alternative to the GNOME ecosystem.I think it's a pretty valid reason to do this and it may also improve the quality and standards of alternative desktops in the long-term.
(DIR) Post #AhVP0qLLLH28Dd3A0W by fabiscafe@mstdn.social
2024-05-03T06:19:10Z
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@BrodieOnLinux Thats the absolut best decision, in my opinion. In the long run you will otherwise either hold back the other project or break your project. As long as there are moving parts. And that is, if you agree on a direction.To fork GTK3 apps is also a good thing. GNOME GTK4 is tied to libadwaita. So going forward without platform library, or an own (non-fork) could be more work.I'm just a bid sad that this move happens only now. It's a little late. Still nice to see!
(DIR) Post #AhVPBQqCV1V4JIX4BE by nicemicro@fosstodon.org
2024-05-03T06:20:58Z
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@BrodieOnLinux are we really at the point in #freeSoftware when people will whine about those who only complain and do nothing, and they equally whine about those who actually work on the thing?Is a #Linux user only satisfied when all the developers are working exactly on the things that specific user needs?It has the same energy as the "why isn't X distribution cater to everyone instead of their specific target user?" comments.
(DIR) Post #AhVQD6YeyvIlwAgnxY by exahamza@mastodon.social
2024-05-03T06:32:38Z
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@BrodieOnLinux >>building a desktop on an immature toolkit like Iced just won't worktime will, don't be so pessimistic.
(DIR) Post #AhVX1TyemaxCm7FpeC by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2024-05-03T07:48:57Z
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@exahamza Read the text surrounding that please
(DIR) Post #AhVbXZUeD3WSxwm4sS by svin@linuxrocks.online
2024-05-03T08:39:27Z
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@BrodieOnLinux but something something limited resources
(DIR) Post #AhVqqEkF4h1rQjQXWy by m0xee@social.librem.one
2024-05-03T11:31:16Z
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@nicemicro @BrodieOnLinuxBut thats exactly what it happening on Fedi: "How dare these devs work on things that I don't use for my own very special obscure reasons" ðŸ«
(DIR) Post #AhVrKtFp1hEjksoaXY by svin@linuxrocks.online
2024-05-03T11:35:50Z
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@BrodieOnLinux has system76 hired the iced toolkit developer?If they can they should absolutely hire him to work on the project from now on.
(DIR) Post #AhWVkNfvKiUyWWAba4 by mint@ryona.agency
2024-05-03T19:08:52.721478Z
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@BrodieOnLinux >Could problems just be resolved upstream, maybe:ebussy: What's the usecase of resolving a problem?
(DIR) Post #AhWjJVdb1HFol4A7Bg by tennoseremel@lor.sh
2024-05-03T21:40:58Z
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@BrodieOnLinux If it works, great. If it fails, we at least will know for certain that is not the way. There is a certain benefit to the community either way: technology or knowledge :blobcatcoffee: