Post Adi5WMEKABuejeC3d2 by john@sauropods.win
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 (DIR) Post #AdgQYcSosLrL9hy1Mu by ephemeral@mograph.social
       2024-01-09T22:12:32Z
       
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       I haven't bought a phone for over a decade, and have only ever had clunky old ones that I squeeze the life out of. As a result, I have zero knowledge of phones. I need a new (second hand/refurbed) one but my head is spinning with all the brands, models etc.I really don't need fingerprint scanners or lidar or anything like that. Something cheap that runs basic apps (firefox, signal, banking) and makes calls is more than enough. Any recommendations on a sturdy device that might last a few years?
       
 (DIR) Post #AdgQYdcQa78gjnTCz2 by john@sauropods.win
       2024-01-09T22:29:58Z
       
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       Sounds counterintuitive, maybe, but get a second hand iPhone. I would recommend an iPhone SE 2 or 3, depending on your budget. Apple keeps the software updates rolling for longer than android. The SE series has realively modern innards, but is deliberately lacking the latest features to keep it cheap (for an iPhone). PS. Everything has fingerprint/face stuff, you can’t save money on that.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdhDGpPmsetDrdh9NI by ephemeral@mograph.social
       2024-01-10T07:35:51Z
       
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       @john thanks for the suggestion. iphone hadn't even occurred to me. My experience of apple is pretty awful, especially when it comes to repair. And I don't know how much an apple phone might get along with my linux computer, where android works fine (if clunkily).I'll think about it. Although awkwardly this adds to the mix the only brand I had pretty much ruled out, making whittling even more intimidating :/ps I don't care about cost on fingerprint scanner etc, I just don't want them.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdhIfHeI3hSW9PxWrI by john@sauropods.win
       2024-01-10T08:36:17Z
       
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       @ephemeral my point about the fingerprint scanner is that you won’t get a phone without biometric auth, it’s been a basic feature of smartphones for too long. Apple’s implementation is at least privacy-protecting, if that’s a concern.All phones suck. You just have to choose the way you want it to suck least. iPhones are reliable and aren’t the privacy and security Wild West. But repairs are expensive (more than an old phone is worth in many cases).
       
 (DIR) Post #AdhJEYdWtHKMyNQInw by john@sauropods.win
       2024-01-10T08:42:38Z
       
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       @cblgh @ephemeral absolutely true.Although in my personal opinion, there’s no reason not to on an iPhone, given the way they implement it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdhON06Z9CV0FfqlZw by john@sauropods.win
       2024-01-10T09:40:14Z
       
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       @cblgh @ephemeral I guess so, but if we're already in the territory of people controlling my fingers, I'm probably gonna give up my PIN!
       
 (DIR) Post #Adi3cHaW8SegARGuJM by ephemeral@mograph.social
       2024-01-10T17:22:22Z
       
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       @john @cblgh haha, fair point on the fingers.Thanks folks. I guess my problem is much more with the superfluous technology but it's also an illustration of how long it has been since I got my phone if I didn't even know they mostly come with fingerprint scanners.I guess I'll just leave it off, but what a waste of transistors and sensors.
       
 (DIR) Post #Adi5WMEKABuejeC3d2 by john@sauropods.win
       2024-01-10T17:43:41Z
       
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       @ephemeral @cblgh It sucks they don't provide a greater variety of phones, for sure. I really thing there is a market for a good simplified phone as well (that's more of a software thing I guess).You’ve got me curious now, though. Why wouldn't you use a fingerprint ID system that is there anyway? Is it the security aspect?