Post AdffV3SLsfPHrpXxS4 by trisweb@m.trisweb.com
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 (DIR) Post #AdffFMyzVwNLnIKmjw by tante@tldr.nettime.org
       2024-01-09T13:39:42Z
       
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       OpenAI’s copyright defenceIn a recent statement for the British House of Lords OpenAI, the worlds most popular hype machine at the writing of this, stated: Because copyright today covers virtually every sort of human expression – including blogposts, photographs, forum posts, scraps of software code, and government documents – it would be impossible to train today’s leading AI models without using copyrighted materials.https://tante.cc/2024/01/09/openais-copyright-defence/
       
 (DIR) Post #AdffV3SLsfPHrpXxS4 by trisweb@m.trisweb.com
       2024-01-09T13:41:46Z
       
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       @tante good! Then don’t! 🙃
       
 (DIR) Post #AdffkwS3gxRSm9z8FM by ftranschel@norden.social
       2024-01-09T13:42:29Z
       
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       @tante Then let's make them shut down.Would be a service for everyone - except maybe Microsoft 🤷‍♂️(No need to stress how ridiculous their stance is - would it be okay to steal anything material from anybody *precisely because it is owned*?!)
       
 (DIR) Post #Adffy8KYpxUBNmlh7w by slowtiger@berlin.social
       2024-01-09T13:42:59Z
       
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       @tante Sie beantworten stur nur die falsche Frage: ja klar ist es inzwischen unmöglich, sowas ohne Material unter Copright zu trainieren. Sie vermeiden aber die Frage, wie sie die Nutzung evtl kompensieren wollen, dafür gibts ja Modelle, von umsonst zur Verfügung stellen bis zu Zahlung an Verwertungs/Verteilungsorganisationen.
       
 (DIR) Post #Adfv5RkQXcu6wYoQ3E by _RyekDarkener_@mastodon.social
       2024-01-09T16:37:15Z
       
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       @tante The main question seems neither to be asked nor answered: How does a fair use model look like for AIs which "grab everything"?
       
 (DIR) Post #AdfvNqRPTGecjzgqJs by tante@tldr.nettime.org
       2024-01-09T16:40:33Z
       
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       @_RyekDarkener_ there isn't one
       
 (DIR) Post #Adfvn3PgNUyoDFu27s by _RyekDarkener_@mastodon.social
       2024-01-09T16:44:57Z
       
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       @tante Well …If we develop and use future technologies and stay in the past with our society, this might become a problem.