Post Acse1fdKFgwlV5vaT2 by cottonnsheepp@nnia.space
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 (DIR) Post #AcryR9j3JIl9zl4n9U by comrade_lecter@nnia.space
       2023-12-16T14:19:28Z
       
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       @cottonnsheepp @necryssa you're allowed to opt out of this terminology. That doesn't mean, however, that the term "love" cannot be applied to an abstract abusive situation.
       
 (DIR) Post #AcsC7mw3Dd4NAUobho by necryssa@nnia.space
       2023-12-16T16:52:49Z
       
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       @comrade_lecter @cottonnsheepp I find it best to understand the world and many things in it is complexrelationships can be very beneficial with minimal detriment to all involvedhumans can bring about very good thingsmanipulation can be used to bring more benefit then detrimentetc.but everything has a reason it's done, even darker things. ignoring it as just "evil person" or othering in some way runs the risk of you doing bad things yourselfthat doesnt mean you cant trust certain things to usually be paired with goodmost people aren't rapistmost people aren't murderersmost people actually do bring more benefit then detriment to the worldyou can want the world to even be more beneficial then detrimentalbut to claim you fit X so can't do bad is a recipe for doing bad imo
       
 (DIR) Post #AcsRYGZ7AyvvuEAe8W by cottonnsheepp@nnia.space
       2023-12-16T19:45:39Z
       
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       @comrade_lecter @necryssa Well... Yeah. I'm just saying as an abuse victim it's offensive. I'm not going to censor it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AcsZugZpwfj0aFi4gq by comrade_lecter@nnia.space
       2023-12-16T21:19:23Z
       
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       @FesterNFang @cottonnsheepp @necryssa this still creates possibility for people to claim that since they're capable of love, they're inherently more capable of a loving relationship.
       
 (DIR) Post #Acse1fdKFgwlV5vaT2 by cottonnsheepp@nnia.space
       2023-12-16T22:05:20Z
       
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       @comrade_lecter @FesterNFang @necryssa Too slippery slope for me. I think everyone is capable of loving relationships, I would say we have a responsibility to as part of our social contract (not living in an oppressive, -phobic culture and all that).
       
 (DIR) Post #AcsfQPThYOlIacmq7U by comrade_lecter@nnia.space
       2023-12-16T22:21:02Z
       
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       @cottonnsheepp @FesterNFang @necryssa it's not a slippery slope. This is something that's happening right now. People who claim they're inherently safer to be around those they have attractions for are a real problem, and they are why love nihilism exists in the first place. When I was first presented with this problem, I realized I had two choices - one was to separate love from feelings altogether, stop calling experiencing romance "falling in love", only reserve it for good behavior, and the other was to separate love from good behavior and keep its feeling-related meanings. I ended up choosing the second route. But the line had to be drawn, and the definitions had to be split.
       
 (DIR) Post #AcshLeyqglT587DbZg by cottonnsheepp@nnia.space
       2023-12-16T22:42:40Z
       
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       @comrade_lecter @FesterNFang @necryssa I think that love nihilism in the context of paraphilia activism is valuable, but it isn't something I want to advocate for as a widespread philosophy of all relationships. So I lean the first with my usage. Especially because my primary concern is the welfare of paraphiles who's attractions (and loves) cannot be met ethically (yaps, etc). Perhaps love nihilism can help me cope with being a hebe. But it isn't going to make me a better person for my neighbors or family or partners.