Post AcamGd5QBx0PFD7NFA by fosstastic@mastodon.social
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(DIR) Post #AcacRmSEheSZwUT4Qi by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-12-08T05:22:43Z
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Every so often I check back in on the multi window protocol and everytime Matthias has to jump through more hoops to appease the Wayland protocol devs to avoid a global coordinates system we've now achieved meta windows that apps can position themselves in https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/264#note_2192089
(DIR) Post #AcacWl6HAJUpBrZObI by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-12-08T05:22:46Z
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Basically an app and all of it's sub windows can be assigned a virtual "workspace" that allows for apps to choose where they place there windows, this is basically a global coordinates system where you don't know the size of the monitor
(DIR) Post #Acag6wcU757lCla7km by nicemicro@fosstodon.org
2023-12-08T06:03:53Z
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@BrodieOnLinux I actually like this idea much better than apps just having a global coordinate system available to them.When there are other apps opened already, it allows the compositor to smartly translate the position of the multi-window app to a less cluttered part of the desktop.
(DIR) Post #AcahwNdjVq0ZjHFvcm by Satiah@mastodon.social
2023-12-08T06:22:24Z
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@BrodieOnLinux I would be so happy to just open an application and have the window open exactly where I closed it last time. Do I understand correctly that this will no longer be a case?
(DIR) Post #AcahwOpT5gzPPxkoYS by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-12-08T06:23:46Z
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@Satiah Different problem but that's also being worked on
(DIR) Post #AcaiIquvLCSItz0pJg by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-12-08T06:23:23Z
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@technobaboo That's a really weird case because normal apps are simply never going to work in a way that makes sense in that environment, things would need to be modified specifically for that style of system
(DIR) Post #AcamGd5QBx0PFD7NFA by fosstastic@mastodon.social
2023-12-08T07:12:32Z
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@BrodieOnLinux I really don't want to see a global coordinate system, unless all compositors allow turning self-positioning windows off.With Wayland, apps are finally appearing on the correct (active) monitor, whereas with X lots of apps and all the windows they create just open on the leftmost monitor (coordinates 0,0), even though my primary and active monitor is to the right of it.Thanks to e. g. KWin rules, users (but not apps) can still place individual windows on specific screens.
(DIR) Post #Acasu1AHCc6kwNYOvo by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-12-08T08:26:26Z
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@technobaboo It's translatable but it'll never be as good as apps designed for a 3D environment, it'll just get them working
(DIR) Post #AcbH66CUhepEvwsvDc by Sythelux@social.tchncs.de
2023-12-08T12:58:00Z
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@BrodieOnLinux this sounds interesting. Not sure about the caveats though.
(DIR) Post #Acc5m9jSxR6tl3YT6O by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-12-08T22:25:31Z
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@technobaboo Here's a question, couldn't a 3D compositor just use the coordinates given not as the literal position but as a spacing difference between the windows of the app
(DIR) Post #Acc6wHlY2lxZWWvHDU by that_leaflet@fosstodon.org
2023-12-08T13:11:47Z
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@Satiah @BrodieOnLinux That's a compositor issue, not directly tied to Wayland. The only thing that has changed on Wayland is that can't position themselves. A compositor would just need to add a feature to remember last window positions and sizes.
(DIR) Post #Acc6wIlELRIebpmXMO by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-12-08T22:38:23Z
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@that_leaflet @Satiah There's a protocol in the works to deal with specifically this https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/18
(DIR) Post #AccB0gjVYfgpvtK7A8 by Satiah@mastodon.social
2023-12-08T23:21:54Z
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@BrodieOnLinux @that_leaflet I'm confused.😛 So there IS a Wayland protocol to restore an application AND it's all windows where I closed them. 😋 So the issue in the top article is no longer a thing?
(DIR) Post #AccDFMCqMILIWQAQwy by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-12-08T23:49:26Z
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@technobaboo Having the compositor dynamically move the group?