Post Aca2rAIHboOGljcKvY by shoulderdemon@nnia.space
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 (DIR) Post #AcZMLsEFdORd5ct3Vg by comrade_lecter@nnia.space
       2023-12-07T14:47:55Z
       
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       What baffles me is people who are against neutering animals. Because living with periodical strong reproductive drive that doesn't have an outlet is worse than not, for the animal's emotional wellbeing. They don't have human social construct of gender and they don't think they become lesser men or women for not having some organs. But if they do regularly want to have sex, what are you suggesting we all should do about it? Let them and deal with a large amount of cubs nobody can accommodate later? Fuck them ourselves? Just watch them suffer?
       
 (DIR) Post #AcZMzn0gSPC4UGZfTk by cottonnsheepp@nnia.space
       2023-12-07T14:55:06Z
       
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       @comrade_lecter Thank you.
       
 (DIR) Post #Aca0daFA8FW9HuYOno by shoulderdemon@nnia.space
       2023-12-07T22:19:17Z
       
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       @comrade_lecter I am surprised that you would take that stance. It's changing the animal "for its own good" without any input from the animal. If you do that to a human, then the burden shouldn't be on the patient to prove that they would be negatively impacted by having the choice made for them. Maybe we don't have any good alternatives, but it's still not good to be in the position of needing to make that decision.Only partly related: are these people against sterilization generally, or only the specific methods of spaying and neutering?
       
 (DIR) Post #Aca16gQuCOoesjvFZ2 by comrade_lecter@nnia.space
       2023-12-07T22:24:34Z
       
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       @shoulderdemon isn't it literally anything humans do to domestic animals though? Vaccination, choice of food, walking on leashes or keeping indoors altogether, other surgeries? They do not give input on any of that, because it's impossible to fully explain the context and potential consequences to them.Also, I saw people against neutering in general.
       
 (DIR) Post #Aca2rAIHboOGljcKvY by shoulderdemon@nnia.space
       2023-12-07T22:44:10Z
       
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       @comrade_lecter Yes it is. But I don't think it's baffling that people would want to make marginally fewer choices on the animal's behalf.I can accept that realistically some form of sterilization is needed (possibly one that doesn't affect hormones), that animals will not be able to understand the implications, and that this situation is not ideal. What would be ideal? I really don't know.