Post AcPH5T3J1uwp1NWf9U by LeftistLawyer@kolektiva.social
(DIR) More posts by LeftistLawyer@kolektiva.social
(DIR) Post #AcPH5Qjjdi6Xq6M0My by LeftistLawyer@kolektiva.social
2023-12-02T04:18:58Z
0 likes, 1 repeats
A little whiny lawyer thread:Just wrapped a 5 day civil jury trial. Mentally and emotionally wiped ... but my brain is still running on adrenaline and keeps asking this question:Why in the hell do courts act out the performative bullshit of swearing people in?You know, the whole "raise your right hand and swear an oath to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth under penalty of perjury in the state of hocus pocus"?People just tell lies, whole lies, and nothing but lies. Swear to god, I impeached three different opposing party witnesses ten ways to Sunday over the course of the week. Straight up played video from their depositions demonstrating the saying shit completely opposite what they testified to in court. There's no penalty. There's no perjury. There is no accountability. How do we expect to have a functioning society without any accountability for lies? I mean sure, they may lose and take a money judgment slap. But, that only encourages them to lie even harder ... or better the next time.Fuck, me. I hate liars./1#lawfedi
(DIR) Post #AcPH5SC8DcPgMSeCGm by LeftistLawyer@kolektiva.social
2023-12-02T04:55:44Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
Imagine this scenario for a moment and consider the impact upon our legal system:1. Opposing party is testifying. 2. Lawyer shoves document in his face and says "Isn't it true you said precisely the opposite under oath at deposition?3. Court goes so silent you can hear a pin drop.4. Judge says: Bailiff?5. Bailiff ask opposing party to step out of the witness stand, cuffs him, and leads him out of the court room to be taken into custody by the sheriff.6. Trial is recessed until opposing party either bonds out, to be tried criminally at a later date, or sits in jail until his criminal trial. 7. Upon release, trial resumes and the lying sack of shit takes the witness stand again only to be asked the same question. 8. Or, trial isn't recessed and all inferences are taken against the lying sack of shit and they lose the trial AND are prosecuted criminally. Should this be the case, we might actually have a functioning justice system./end#lawfedi
(DIR) Post #AcPH5T3J1uwp1NWf9U by LeftistLawyer@kolektiva.social
2023-12-02T04:40:24Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
Just looked the perjury laws up ion my state. They're all there. But I look at the caselaw and there is nothing.Here's §12 in my state: -- Defendant’s testimony may be used to prove perjury. --"The various sections of this code which declare that evidence obtained upon the examination of a person as a witness cannot be received against him in any criminal proceeding, do not forbid such evidence being proved against such person upon any proceedings founded upon a charge of perjury committed in such examination."Not even mentioning the legislature was must have been smoking crack when they wrote it, there is not a single actual case where the statute has been employed. Wtf?/2#lawfedi
(DIR) Post #AcPPNEhNvyVDLmFwQa by freepeoplesfreepress@qoto.org
2023-12-02T19:34:42Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@LeftistLawyer In response to:"How do we expect to have a functioning society without any accountability for lies?"Dear Leftist Lawyer at kolektiva social: News Journalists have the same problem, people are often untruthful, there is no perjury when people tell lies to News Journalists. You will argue that a court of law is more important, I would argue that News Journalists should also be allowed to make people "...swear an oath to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth under penalty of perjury in the state of hocus pocus"?" We as News Journalists cannot compel people to tell the truth to us, reason why I am discussing News Journalists is because people in general are untruthful, our society no longer has any real integrity. Not trying to steal your thunder, there is no longer any accountability within any part of society. In your profession as a lawyer your objective is to seek the truth and in my profession as a journalist my objective is also to seek the truth. So we both share the same objective is to ultimately discover what the truth is. So I feel your pain, I have empathy and sympathy for your cause to restore truthfulness within society in order to have true accountability for all people.Sincerely, Monica Andrews, Editor-in-chief, #FreePeoplesFreePress News