Post AcP3DJUf3R4oKkATjM by ckure@infosec.exchange
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(DIR) Post #AcNlwDJks1YPsTMplo by mttaggart@infosec.town
2023-12-02T00:38:06.294Z
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What is the Cybertruck of cybersecurity? A ludicrously hyped, ultimately disappointing, maybe even dangerous product that never should have existed in the first place?
(DIR) Post #AcNm9lsXgUUgpc6Tc8 by irenes@mastodon.social
2023-12-02T00:39:07Z
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@mttaggart ... all of them? security is not a product?
(DIR) Post #AcNm9mgsfKlBLjeg4m by irenes@mastodon.social
2023-12-02T00:39:25Z
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@mttaggart we're a bit out of our lane saying that, but...
(DIR) Post #AcNm9nbxF8PiCkMG2K by mttaggart@infosec.town
2023-12-02T00:40:32.992Z
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@irenes Security is a practice, not a product. But there are products sold for cybersecurity, and that's definitely what I'm talking about here.
(DIR) Post #AcNmHCGBzsjggAhrLE by irenes@mastodon.social
2023-12-02T00:41:23Z
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@mttaggart yes, certainly. we just kind of... we have trouble suspending disbelief in any of the products we've seen in the space. we recognize that there are situations where they're useful, it's just those situations seem very narrow to us.
(DIR) Post #AcNmHD4Wyj0BCIG3ns by mttaggart@infosec.town
2023-12-02T00:41:53.631Z
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@irenes I'm going to gently suggest you are taking this most more seriously than intended, but I do understand your concerns.
(DIR) Post #AcNmNyrcCeE99rRfyy by FritzAdalis@infosec.exchange
2023-12-02T00:43:03Z
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@mttaggartjonathandata1
(DIR) Post #AcNmQ3OKLARtmNjbk0 by mttaggart@infosec.town
2023-12-02T00:43:29.176Z
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@FritzAdalis Who made that product and where can I send my angrily-worded letter
(DIR) Post #AcNmSwsf0I4USIIrNA by cyberfarmer@fosstodon.org
2023-12-02T00:42:41Z
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@mttaggart Okta is starting to look like a cybertruck. Over promise and fail spectacularly.
(DIR) Post #AcNmSxdoAzmkoWMVrU by mttaggart@infosec.town
2023-12-02T00:44:00.502Z
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@cyberfarmer Hmm, this is tricky! As a business they kinda messed up, but is the product itself underperforming?
(DIR) Post #AcNmVj5ijEiYYbjibo by irenes@mastodon.social
2023-12-02T00:44:26Z
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@mttaggart oh sorry, that's quite fair! we're a bit out of it and didn't pick up on that
(DIR) Post #AcNmYhBmG2tNWfz9ay by mttaggart@infosec.town
2023-12-02T00:45:03.995Z
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@irenes No worries! As always, your depth of consideration of topics is really appreciated.
(DIR) Post #AcNn4oQ8uEOtDn1EuG by irenes@mastodon.social
2023-12-02T00:45:21Z
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@mttaggart <3
(DIR) Post #AcNn6w6XJD9JdCrRfk by wholesomedonut@fosstodon.org
2023-12-02T00:51:00Z
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@mttaggart McAfee antivirusA lot of Solarwinds and Atlassian products (they've proven time and again they can't keep up with exploits or react quickly enough when they DO know something's up)Thinking a $5/mo VPN suddenly makes you invisible, when even Tails admits that you're still traceable using Tor and a ramdisked Linux OS
(DIR) Post #AcNnBbOxi0bgs2hk12 by mttaggart@infosec.town
2023-12-02T00:52:05.178Z
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@wholesomedonut Ooooof consumer AV is a great one
(DIR) Post #AcNnCutaiSEhcUeqVE by Enigma@infosec.exchange
2023-12-02T00:51:38Z
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@mttaggart for me, I think this was the baseball bat to the cyber truck window in the infosec product space https://www.computerworld.com/article/2586916/security-flaw-found-in-firewall-program-blackice-defender.html
(DIR) Post #AcNnPK8Ohk0RN6V1qS by mttaggart@infosec.town
2023-12-02T00:54:33.467Z
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@Enigma Honestly F5 would be a great entry to this list
(DIR) Post #AcNoFhYCt8xh3QXzN2 by helgztech@fosstodon.org
2023-12-02T01:00:46Z
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@mttaggart I can't speak to SIEM (yet) ... I use and love a password manager, but it's likely creating a massive sense of false security. Ditto 2fa. I suspect these user facing tools distract us from human factors. 'Oh, I've got a parcel that couldn't be delivered ... '
(DIR) Post #AcNoFiXBERjc6X4gPQ by mttaggart@infosec.town
2023-12-02T01:04:01.649Z
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@helgztech Hmm, maybe, but even a distraction due to MFA doesn't discount it's massive positive value. Same with password managers, although it sure seems like we should be extra skeptical of the cloud-baser ones.
(DIR) Post #AcNq76KRawKRCi8WmW by helgztech@fosstodon.org
2023-12-02T01:11:52Z
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@mttaggart yeah my understanding of security so far is that we need layers of protections, no one solution is going to do it all.I wonder if fingerprint readers would fit your brief. So crappy and unreliable as to be worthless.
(DIR) Post #AcNq8CD1DYnFjNBYeG by mttaggart@infosec.town
2023-12-02T01:25:05.452Z
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@helgztech Ooh yeah!
(DIR) Post #AcNrh9S5YlTlGnSyAq by paco@infosec.exchange
2023-12-02T01:26:35Z
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@mttaggart PGP
(DIR) Post #AcNrhcQJqQIL7hrSwS by mttaggart@infosec.town
2023-12-02T01:42:41.197Z
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@paco Winner
(DIR) Post #AcNrj89DNeSxnsa8Ke by SecureOwl@infosec.exchange
2023-12-02T01:14:26Z
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@mttaggart consumer dark web scanning services offered by the very same credit reporting agencies the data was stolen from in the first place
(DIR) Post #AcON76zyOwmpljArz6 by sten@chaos.social
2023-12-02T07:12:24Z
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@mttaggart @paco Hyped, dangerous? Sure. Shouldn't have existed in the first place? Don't be ridiculous. I (and I suppose many others) got started in security because of PGP. It was the letsencrypt of its day and did much to popularise and democratise cryptography. It was even seen as a serious threat by the US government.
(DIR) Post #AcONAMK7sbL0AR9Ino by mttaggart@infosec.town
2023-12-02T07:35:14.926Z
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@sten @paco Fair point, but also a lot more serious than this thread. But well taken.
(DIR) Post #AcOQXObFsle1kYpyng by sten@chaos.social
2023-12-02T07:54:54Z
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@mttaggart @paco Yeah, I realised too late that there was a tongue in that cheek and I'm sorry for taking it too seriously. But I have heard that argument advanced in earnest and it's not good for my blood pressure. Anyway, have a good weekend! 😊
(DIR) Post #AcP3DJUf3R4oKkATjM by ckure@infosec.exchange
2023-12-02T15:19:03Z
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@mttaggart Norse was my go to, but they’ve been gone for a while.