Post AcMurDXbJkRZYGZmDo by flameeyes@mastodon.social
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 (DIR) Post #AcMurCUjCwYGJ4Dy6a by hertg@infosec.exchange
       2023-12-01T13:21:05Z
       
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       When I heard that Teleport is gonna change their license, I almost had a "aight, here we go again" moment after being fucked with by #Lightbend and #HashiCorp recently. Thankfully they switched to AGPL and not BSL (which I think stands for bullshit license).The common tactics of companies "promoting #opensource" to gobble up a larger audience and then pull a bait and switch with the licensing seems to have caused me some serious PTSD.https://goteleport.com/blog/teleport-oss-switches-to-agpl-v3/#teleport #licensing
       
 (DIR) Post #AcMurDXbJkRZYGZmDo by flameeyes@mastodon.social
       2023-12-01T14:38:22Z
       
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       @hertg it doesn't have a significantly different effect though, given how AGPL is basically a toxic license for most professionals.
       
 (DIR) Post #AcMurESftY66PHHMBM by ivan@vucica.net
       2023-12-01T14:44:31.893163Z
       
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       @flameeyes @hertg I learned of it recently, I wanted to look at it for purely personal use, and -- yeah, I'm already back at the "I'd rather roll my own" stage.I understand why, I know it would not really affect me for personal deployment, but it fits into the category of things I'd rather not have under AGPL or BSL.I also don't understand what is the meaning of "we ship binaries as Apache2" if the source is AGPLv3. There's no practical difference to shipping AGPLv3 binaries.
       
 (DIR) Post #AcRFVbF7OBYEMQItYO by flameeyes@mastodon.social
       2023-12-01T14:45:44Z
       
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       @ivan @hertg if the binaries were licensed as AGPLv3, the corresponding source code would have to be provided when running it over the network.They could have said that the binaries are provided under a Freeware License and it would basically mean the same at that point — it's the not-unusual implication of "the copyleft implications are for Others, not for Us."(It also probably means that they'll only accept patches that are CLA'd or Apache-2.0 licensed for that.)
       
 (DIR) Post #AcRFVc5EGREcy2gVmK by flameeyes@mastodon.social
       2023-12-01T14:48:46Z
       
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       @ivan @hertg > A Contributor License Agreement (CLA) gives Teleport the right to dual license external contributions and makes sure contributors don’t submit code that has any restrictions to it.Yep.