Post AcLfwRsbjys904TiVs by slackline@mastodon.social
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 (DIR) Post #AcLZ4bL3l0QkyRj7ho by matrix@mastodon.matrix.org
       2023-11-30T23:02:56Z
       
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       We're glad to see that Tchap, which is built on #Matrix, is one of the messaging tools that remain available to French civil servants following this change in policy: https://www.politico.eu/article/france-requires-ministers-to-swap-whatsapp-signal-for-french-alternatives/#OpenSource #OpenStandards #FOSS #ProtocolsNotPlatforms
       
 (DIR) Post #AcLaX2EBTfVoQodIw4 by lgehr@chaos.social
       2023-11-30T23:19:20Z
       
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       @matrix that they also banned #signal make it smell like cheap 'French first' politics.
       
 (DIR) Post #AcLbkLkYJ2dqhGga6i by koyax@troet.cafe
       2023-11-30T23:32:36Z
       
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       @matrix Great news for the matrix ecosystem! I like seeing open standards and open source protocols being preferred. Do you agree, that matrix is perse more secure than signal, though?
       
 (DIR) Post #AcLcwQdy2LSFItvg0m by matrix@mastodon.matrix.org
       2023-11-30T23:46:26Z
       
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       @koyax Definitely good news for the Matrix ecosystem!We did notice the implied claim by the officials involved that Signal is less secure, and we'd be hesitant to make that assertion ourselves. Signal has done objectively good work on that front. We'll leave judgment on that comparison to security experts.
       
 (DIR) Post #AcLdJijYwZvi4PeXD6 by eibhear@social.gibiris.org
       2023-11-30T23:46:01Z
       
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       I am 100% for governments using self-hosted systems for internal communications, but this:"These digital tools are not devoid of security flaws, and therefore cannot guarantee the security of conversations and information shared via them,"... is a shockingly weak justification.
       
 (DIR) Post #AcLdJjveV7C7mCJhh2 by matrix@mastodon.matrix.org
       2023-11-30T23:50:24Z
       
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       @eibhear Agreed, given that nothing is "devoid of security flaws."
       
 (DIR) Post #AcLfwRsbjys904TiVs by slackline@mastodon.social
       2023-12-01T00:20:14Z
       
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       @matrix Usual minister bullshit from someone who doesn't understand software.What software isn't 100% devoid of and validated as to be free of security flaws?None.Its a cat and mouse game or perhaps better is the Red Queen evolutionary analogy of running faster to stay in the same place.The ban contradicts the intended purpose because all it does is erode and lessen the ability to communicate securely.The Signals protocol is open and out there ready to be improved upon.
       
 (DIR) Post #AcLimG5x088PPuYHbs by matrix@mastodon.matrix.org
       2023-12-01T00:52:07Z
       
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       @slackline Indeed, the stated reasoning is ... curious. To your point, no software is devoid of vulnerabilities!
       
 (DIR) Post #AcLmGm5ktyHhCfhg1Y by CodingThunder@mastodon.social
       2023-12-01T01:30:36Z
       
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       @matrix Banning WhatsApp is a great move. Signal shouldn't have been included in the list though
       
 (DIR) Post #AcMgpaDqcR6ZxXfBNQ by cos@fosstodon.org
       2023-12-01T12:04:47Z
       
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       @matrix any details on what Olvid is? First time heard about it. Does it have a Matrix bridge yet? :)
       
 (DIR) Post #AcN66cya8CsoHEkMr2 by mari@berlin.social
       2023-12-01T16:47:57Z
       
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       @matrix But why @signalapp ?
       
 (DIR) Post #AcNNahcZ7n3oaiNLXc by matrix@mastodon.matrix.org
       2023-12-01T20:04:07Z
       
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       @cos No bridge we're aware of ... yet 👀
       
 (DIR) Post #AcQjxarbCD2Ol8bj7Y by darnell@one.darnell.one
       2023-12-03T10:58:23Z
       
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       @matrix @koyax I would not use #Signal either for the same reason I do not recommend #WhatsApp: both expose phone numbers. I currently use #Telegram (you have to opt in for the secure settings) & #Element as my primary standalone chat apps.