Post AcEycQLUH0QFTNQqUi by Leisureguy@mstdn.ca
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 (DIR) Post #AcEt96xKmiHjAVL0gC by philmoscovitch@mstdn.ca
       2023-11-27T16:05:06Z
       
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       @clive I riffed a bit on your alt-text piece.https://www.halifaxexaminer.ca/morning-file/the-importance-and-pleasure-of-alt-text/#V1
       
 (DIR) Post #AcEt97coIVShF8k8KO by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-27T17:45:31Z
       
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       @philmoscovitch Great piece!And agreed, the role of LLMs in turning images into useful text is a seriously excellent use case
       
 (DIR) Post #AcEtrdFA6MUO32uDeS by Leisureguy@mstdn.ca
       2023-11-27T17:42:57Z
       
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       @philmoscovitch @clive Good piece. My approach to alt text is to assume some life-or-death situation in which I must call a friend and describe an image to a friend in sufficient detail that they can pick it out from a display of random images or roughly reproduce it. I will have only a minute at the phone, so the description must be short and to the point, and my friend can only listen, not speak. However, I can prepare the description ahead of time so it is complete and polished.
       
 (DIR) Post #AcEtre4D2ZK2bMmzDc by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-27T17:53:34Z
       
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       @Leisureguy @philmoscovitch Nice!!When I was at campus newspapers in the late 80s, we used the inverted pyramid -- i.e. the most crucial info in the first paragraph, second most in the second paragraph, and so onOne of my editors described those first two paragraph as being "imagine a friend is grabbing their keys and running out the door because they're late for class, but you need to tell the something important ...... what details would fit into the few seconds before they're gone?"
       
 (DIR) Post #AcEu0Zpq8x0O5EKKjg by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-27T17:55:10Z
       
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       @Leisureguy @philmoscovitch (I now think the inverted-pyramid style is quite terrible, actually, as way to deliver news ...... because it generally assumes an audience that i) has been following [ISSUE A] for a long time attentively, such that ii) you can give 'em just the most important recent development, and they'll integrate it with their existing knowledgeThis works for *no one* but absolute news houndsterrible
       
 (DIR) Post #AcEurL5Bitqxg3fHHs by philmoscovitch@mstdn.ca
       2023-11-27T18:04:45Z
       
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       @clive @Leisureguy I learned the inverted pyramid too, but haven't thought about it in a long time. I do remember being struck at one point in reading Greek and Canadian newspapers that the Canadian ones seemed to assume (farther down in stories, anyway) that the reader was new to the issue and over-explained, while with the Greek ones, if I hadn't been following from the first reporting, I had very little idea what was going on.
       
 (DIR) Post #AcEycQLUH0QFTNQqUi by Leisureguy@mstdn.ca
       2023-11-27T18:46:47Z
       
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       @clive @philmoscovitch But you can see how the idea seemed perfectly right to an editor (who by nature is an absolute news hound). I've observed that people often unconsciously assume that their situation or biases are common.
       
 (DIR) Post #AcF0gpSr1XbORb6dk0 by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-27T19:10:02Z
       
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       @Leisureguy @philmoscovitch yes, precisely News writers writing news as if their audiences were other news writers  🤦‍♂️
       
 (DIR) Post #AcF135XVwBIkfftqb2 by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-27T19:13:06Z
       
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       @Leisureguy @philmoscovitch Oh that’s interesting!