Post Ac2vXImCMAnkn3GyIa by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
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(DIR) Post #Ac2qn56gRq6vG0YkbY by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2023-11-21T22:23:26Z
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The "Effective altruism" movement misses the point. The problem with philanthropy isn't the way it's targeted. It's the fact that some people have more money than whole states to spend on their idea of doing good. So the fix isn't to make philanthropy more "effective", but to make it more democratic.(1/2)#EffectiveAltruism #Philanthropy
(DIR) Post #Ac2r0TC2CtYvixRkB6 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2023-11-21T22:25:52Z
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Broadly speaking, there are 2 ways to democratise philanthropy;* the centralised way: increase taxes on wealth accumulation enough that elected governments can spend that money on social good, not billionaires* the decentralised way: convince the majority of people to stop working for or being customers of corporations, and put their labour and money into the solidarity economy; cooperatives, social enterprises etc(2/2)
(DIR) Post #Ac2rSB8Yvrafph2EHg by mybarkingdogs@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-11-21T22:30:21Z
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@strypey Also, I'd suggest abolishing the concept of philanthropy entirely - it's nothing more than "indulgences" bought for reputation washing or wrongs already done.I'd actually argue for centralized to begin with moving to decentralized once it could work, but along the way things like direct compensation (e.g. if a company polluted it has to clean up that pollution rather than fund a museum) and an anon fund (e.g. unnamed philanthropic donations go to it and are given for need/at random)
(DIR) Post #Ac2v61Lp2HwMvYvWuu by erwinrossen@mas.to
2023-11-21T23:11:33Z
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@strypey All EA people would agree with you that it would be better that philanthropy would not be necessary anymore. Most people that I know personally from the movement also vote for higher taxes and more wealth distribution, so the change you like to see is embraced by them as much as by you.Deliberately doing nothing right now to help others, because it should not be necessary, is also not a solution however.
(DIR) Post #Ac2vXImCMAnkn3GyIa by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2023-11-21T23:16:40Z
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@mybarkingdogs > I'd actually argue for centralized to begin with moving to decentralized once it could workFunny, that's also what Marx advocated.
(DIR) Post #Ac3KTmpdAQxBhWIaPI by mybarkingdogs@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-11-22T03:55:53Z
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@strypey Which is why I do
(DIR) Post #Ac51ha0o7MrRBNJHX6 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2023-11-22T23:35:10Z
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@mybarkingdogs> I'd actually argue for centralized to begin with moving to decentralized once it could workCan you point me to a historical example of this strategy working, rather than leading to even more extreme centralisation and/or collapse?
(DIR) Post #Ac54BLmxlQirfK9qbY by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2023-11-23T00:02:53Z
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@jonathanharker> so, taxation thenSee the second post.
(DIR) Post #AcFGfgiDg3J4HDlrEG by clacke@libranet.de
2023-11-23T16:31:54Z
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@strypey That's the decision-making framework, who decides where resources should go.No matter which framework you have for decision-making, the people deciding still need an idea for which decisions should be made. That's the level e.g. EA is at.
(DIR) Post #AcFGfhUQmns4gkKMNM by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2023-11-27T22:10:00Z
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@clacke> No matter which framework you have for decision-making, the people deciding still need an idea for which decisions should be made. That's the level e.g. EA is atCan you link me to an EA analysis of government spending or crowdfunding? Something that has nothing to do with millionaire philanthropists.