Post AbzMPpdQE5NcVozTLU by mapto@qoto.org
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 (DIR) Post #AbsXDnwwP9rBCSru9Q by bobpony@mastodon.social
       2023-11-16T21:03:52Z
       
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       Anyone gonna switch to Mozilla Firefox?
       
 (DIR) Post #AbsXDpymrGWPUlkPJ2 by bobpony@mastodon.social
       2023-11-16T22:28:21Z
       
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       Bit off topic but... How did this post blow up?!
       
 (DIR) Post #AbsXWPI4JMqiDscYeu by mmu_man@m.g3l.org
       2023-11-16T22:59:54Z
       
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       @bobpony It has been foretold.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbsXbVxSwrj0LmQ53Y by piggo@piggo.space
       2023-11-16T23:01:15.075719Z
       
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       @bobpony people hate google
       
 (DIR) Post #Absb28Tqe68pDUx4eO by otyugh@pouet.chapril.org
       2023-11-16T23:39:51Z
       
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       @bobpony Feels like big new to me. I wouldn't use a browser without a good adblock and I only know that one.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbsgMe23XvtkdRYEKm by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
       2023-11-17T00:39:24.133149Z
       
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       @bobpony it's in everyone's best interest to stop pretending the web is an open standard that is free as in freedom, that lie hurts a lot of people bro.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbsqjwugVnyFObr1lo by lispi314@udongein.xyz
       2023-11-17T02:26:44.759314Z
       
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       @jeff @bobpony It was and it could be again.Some major deprecation of certain current things would be needed though.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbsqjxyyXKzsiCry64 by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
       2023-11-17T02:35:39.706597Z
       
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       @lispi314 @bobpony until it actually is for end users stop telling end users that it is
       
 (DIR) Post #AbtDhNhgkOxmYtWIbI by raccoon@den.raccoon.quest
       2023-11-17T06:53:07.903Z
       
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       @bobpony@mastodon.social what do you mean switch to Firefox? Any self respecting individual already uses it or a fork.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbtTFMEoCbMrAqfepE by szkodnix@mk.szkod.ovh
       2023-11-17T09:47:18.784Z
       
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       @bobpony@mastodon.social I won't. I'm already on Firefox 😉
       
 (DIR) Post #AbtWtxsby9sNMeLJr6 by null31@pl.gnu.moe
       2023-11-17T10:27:55.071516Z
       
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       @bobpony although is a thing that would happens few years later (2019 -> 2024).https://9to5google.com/2019/01/22/google-chrome-break-ad-blockers/
       
 (DIR) Post #AbtgY2RRKM1SgPoi8W by Zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com
       2023-11-17T12:16:24.281687Z
       
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       @bobpony >massoc>using jewgle chrome>thinks the alternative is censorfox
       
 (DIR) Post #AbtjQqsMEKf4eDfkDQ by lispi314@udongein.xyz
       2023-11-17T03:44:21.617922Z
       
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       @jeff @bobpony That's fair. Personally I consider that so long as Devault's observation holds true, it's not conducive to freedom.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbtjQryQ9H6c3JW6Iy by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
       2023-11-17T12:48:29.022942Z
       
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       @lispi314 @bobpony conjecture: web standards expand at a rate that is at least slightly more what google's competitors are capable of sustaining. this is why ladybird excites me greatly. it has killed the nihilism and invigorated so many great developers.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbtlRCMiX2V1CmALJY by idiot@shitposter.club
       2023-11-17T13:11:11.250457Z
       
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       @bobpony Switch to implied I switched off of it in the first place.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbtqbKzHpUgYc2rP1c by didek@101010.pl
       2023-11-17T14:09:01Z
       
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       @jeff @bobpony It is very much open standard*s*.Just that we have monoculture of client/browser implementation.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbtwzXekyhMAZzBN0C by taylan@pl.tkammer.de
       2023-11-17T15:20:38.187713Z
       
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       @bobpony Already did the switch for my dad when I noticed uBO on Chrome wasn't working for YouTube properly. (I was on FF anyway.)
       
 (DIR) Post #Abu0CMcVcb2vyhw8Po by skypage@noagendasocial.com
       2023-11-17T15:56:34Z
       
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       @bobpony Switch? I never stopped using Firefox
       
 (DIR) Post #AbuH7ml0iPjkoWJdoW by JonathanMBR@mstdn.social
       2023-11-17T19:06:13Z
       
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       @bobpony I use Firefox already
       
 (DIR) Post #Abynqy79JLGCEZ6EMq by mapto@qoto.org
       2023-11-18T22:16:00Z
       
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       @otyugh @bobpony I'm quite happy with this one https://www.ghostery.com/
       
 (DIR) Post #AbyoEXKSY90Y6vYzS4 by otyugh@pouet.chapril.org
       2023-11-19T23:36:03Z
       
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       @mapto @bobpony Addblock that has adds>Since July 2018, with version 8.2, Ghostery shows advertisements of its own to users.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghostery
       
 (DIR) Post #AbzMPpdQE5NcVozTLU by mapto@qoto.org
       2023-11-20T05:59:04Z
       
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       @otyugh @bobpony I don't see anything bad in ads per se, as long as they are not intrusive and are actually useful to me as a user. To me this is a valid model to make software sustainable.Having said that, as the sources of your quote indicate, the feature is optional on Ghostery and even when enabled by users, it does not send your data to their servers.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbzhMUN4vR6CjVapvs by otyugh@pouet.chapril.org
       2023-11-20T09:53:22Z
       
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       @mapto @bobpony >I don't see anything bad in ads per seThen we disagree. Even GIEC scientists agrees that adds limitation would be one of the easiest levers to pull to make mindless consumerism lower a bit.Adds obviously don't control people, but has a strong power of influence - especially on children and vulnerable people.Without even talking about their use in propaganda as it was used recently by Israël on youtube.So yeah, I don't understand why you don't have a problem with them.
       
 (DIR) Post #Abzi0fFlswMY4CKfse by mapto@qoto.org
       2023-11-20T10:01:00Z
       
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       @otyugh @bobpony because I've lived in a totalitarian country where ads were limited to state-sponsored ones. Anyway, I am probably more willing to discern between different types of ads than you are. To me pushing information to the public through mass media is a valid means of awareness development and discussion (for people that wouldn't bother to show interest in a topic themselves). Then there is also door to door marketing for which I also see valid uses and alternative ways to keep it ethical. Sorry for sliding too much away from the topic
       
 (DIR) Post #AbzkTT8wBoBIoVzzY8 by otyugh@pouet.chapril.org
       2023-11-20T10:28:39Z
       
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       @mapto @bobpony I do wonder - if one totalitarian state happened to give good working condition to their worker - if that too should be considered off the table then.> To me pushing information to the public through mass media is a valid means of awarenessIt is. It just only available but to the richest businesses, effectively stranding little local businesses.>for people that wouldn't bother to show interest in a topic themselvesI think it'd be fair - if it was consumers doing the adds.
       
 (DIR) Post #Abzl6zG4ihdbi8BHou by otyugh@pouet.chapril.org
       2023-11-20T10:35:47Z
       
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       @mapto I still have to meet the first add that was informative or held any bargain. Do you have any personal example where a global add campaign would be of any good informative value to you ?Do you ever see people use and share them for the better  ?Because I don't have any example in mind, so if you have, it's a big deal ! Millions of adds out there everyday !