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 (DIR) Post #AbuLLdcrrUmCMeMsbY by Adam_Cadmon1@mastodon.online
       2023-11-17T13:27:50Z
       
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       Yeah, Biden's continued, unequivocal, support of israel is going to cost him dearly, smh. All I can say is, Biden is trash, but he's not a complete fascist. And that's your only other alternative. Think about it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbuLLeWsVFZzAMZbuK by sidereal@kolektiva.social
       2023-11-17T14:58:50Z
       
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       @Adam_Cadmon1 TBH this exact type of shit (Biden being out of touch causing re-election issues) is why I didn’t support Biden in 2020… or 2008. He was a conservative foil for Obama because Obama was seen as too progressive. Running him [after] Obama was just backwards. However, it’s also not like there are many dems who would do much better. I’ll probably still vote for him 🤮 purity is bad
       
 (DIR) Post #AbuLLfRF7gfLzAwclM by Adam_Cadmon1@mastodon.online
       2023-11-17T15:02:23Z
       
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       @sidereal Like, I understand the situation isn't ideal. Trust me. I don't like Biden. But if the choice is between him and field of fascists..come on. And then acting like 3rd party candidates have a shot at all in this is just addled brain thinking. It's why we ended up with Trump the first time.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbuLLgEWAU56RzzyZE by ItsTrainingCatsAndDogs@kolektiva.social
       2023-11-17T15:13:06Z
       
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       @Adam_Cadmon1 @sidereal My mental health is so rotten because I feel like I'm in panic/crisis mode when everyone else gets super complacent after Biden's election wins.  He does the same shit the GOP does in more indirect ways, like, he's sneakier (union busting, fossil fuels, immigration, genocide, carcereal systems).  I am so jaded that Trump winning almost feels better because then everyone is mad and starts really resisting, which feels better to me, like a more normal response.  Misery loves company and all that.  I feel so alone and crazy when everyone is relieved and I'm still freaking out.  But I am privileged. I won't have to move to escape oppression if Trump wins. But then I think how people are doing that even with Biden in office, and I throw my hands up in the air and  fuck it.  At this point I am wanting people to rise up.  I don't think they ever will against Biden.  I am ready to rip the bandaid off.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbuLLh1nDHUqup3KN6 by Adam_Cadmon1@mastodon.online
       2023-11-17T15:16:38Z
       
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       @ItsTrainingCatsAndDogs @sidereal ...If you're feeling that way, I suggest you take a look at Syria, Taiwan, Gaza, etc. Not saying you're aren't ready, just understand what "rise up" means for most people.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbuLLhsG4DSpXXbE9I by holyramenempire@kolektiva.social
       2023-11-17T15:21:13Z
       
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       @Adam_Cadmon1 @ItsTrainingCatsAndDogs @sidereal The national appetite for anything beyond quick-acting reforms + long-term reforms aren't there, in my opinion. We want those reforms desperately, and we want them to be major, I believe, but there doesn't seem to be the slightest appetite for revolution or anything revolutionary. In my opinion, any attempts right now would just result in mass death and a full fascist takeover.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbuLLijmrCHYDYdyaG by ItsTrainingCatsAndDogs@kolektiva.social
       2023-11-17T15:23:05Z
       
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       @holyramenempire @Adam_Cadmon1 @sidereal That is my fear as well.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbuLLjUa3DiEYgXLWK by ItsTrainingCatsAndDogs@kolektiva.social
       2023-11-17T15:25:30Z
       
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       @holyramenempire @Adam_Cadmon1 @sidereal Then I secretly want things to get worse so there IS that revolutionary appetite, because I don't think we can reform our way out of capitalism and mass extinction due to global warming.  But the cost is so scary. But I am even more scared of revolution NOT happening.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbuLLkKKwn739CkgC0 by sidereal@kolektiva.social
       2023-11-17T15:54:00Z
       
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       @ItsTrainingCatsAndDogs @holyramenempire @Adam_Cadmon1 I don't think revolutionary appetite mostly comes from things being shitty, I think it comes from people having a clear vision of how things could be better, a realistic plan to get there, & free time/energy to act on that plan.Masses of people don't become revolutionary out of desperation, masses of people become revolutionary out of hope. Getting people more free time makes them more revolutionary.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbuLLl9jrgEHicnjJQ by ItsTrainingCatsAndDogs@kolektiva.social
       2023-11-17T15:56:07Z
       
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       @sidereal @holyramenempire @Adam_Cadmon1 I don't think that is always true.  The spontaneous masses rising up most often starts with pissed off people and riots from what I have seen and read about.  Need births invention and all that.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbuLLm4SSnbEYXL1ii by sidereal@kolektiva.social
       2023-11-17T16:01:05Z
       
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       @ItsTrainingCatsAndDogs @holyramenempire @Adam_Cadmon1 It's not always true but let's look at which revolutions are successful: ones which have a long period of slow infra building before things reach a breaking point. Situations which just go from 0 to 60 tend to break in a fashy direction.Part of why the 2020 uprising happened was bc people had so much free time and so many were on unemployment. That's why they've been pushing us back to work since.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbuLLn0aye6VSqXSL2 by holyramenempire@kolektiva.social
       2023-11-17T16:48:13Z
       
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       @sidereal @ItsTrainingCatsAndDogs @Adam_Cadmon1 What it would take for me to support an overthrow would be that we already have day-one, full plans to replace all the vital services provided by the US govt today. A revolution without that would be, IMO, relying on so many people dying that we don't need to provide support to the remainder. And "we'll figure it out later" sounds to me like "Just elevate me/us to power first! and then I'll ignore the need for services."I think that people get bogged down in "the US is not providing good support to every person" and ignore that there ARE millions who might literally die if there's a break in those support services for too long. I want to, but I cannot trust our current crop of Americans to turn around after a violent overthrow and care for their poor elderly neighbor who needs insulin. Y'know?
       
 (DIR) Post #AbuLLnGu019EHQATku by sidereal@kolektiva.social
       2023-11-17T16:01:56Z
       
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       @ItsTrainingCatsAndDogs @holyramenempire @Adam_Cadmon1 That's why capitalists are so into getting people to work overtime. Less time to organize
       
 (DIR) Post #AbuLLnovxUMzyy5eng by freakazoid@retro.social
       2023-11-17T17:03:19Z
       
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       @holyramenempire @sidereal @ItsTrainingCatsAndDogs @Adam_Cadmon1 Ah, yes, like when the American revolutionaries drew up their entire Constitution before they fired a single shot.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbuLLof2pk3OaaTH1c by freakazoid@retro.social
       2023-11-17T17:12:17Z
       
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       @holyramenempire @sidereal @ItsTrainingCatsAndDogs @Adam_Cadmon1 Snark aside, you're right that revolution isn't going to happen until enough people think they have more to gain than to lose from it. But that percentage doesn't come anywhere near a majority. The American revolution never had more than 30% popular support, near as anyone can tell.And the revolution isn't going to start as the downtrodden rising up against the people actively oppressing them. It's going to start as sabotage and even terrorism, because nothing can change as long as people believe they can continue to live out their lives in peace while others suffer.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbuLLpLwGGMgjcXWsq by freakazoid@retro.social
       2023-11-17T17:21:56Z
       
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       @holyramenempire @sidereal @ItsTrainingCatsAndDogs @Adam_Cadmon1 TBQH, though, I don't think revolution is in the cards. I think the west is in for a long, slow decline. At best. More likely WWIII.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbuLLqBLB9TvJ2aa0G by holyramenempire@kolektiva.social
       2023-11-17T17:35:31Z
       
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       @freakazoid @sidereal @ItsTrainingCatsAndDogs @Adam_Cadmon1 I believe that if enough people want major reforms, and we work towards them, the changes will be indistinguishable from a revolution. Some culture is going to have to be the first to put aside the old ways, and America does a lot of new and innovative things (good and bad). I think the old ideas about what works and doesn't work need to all be thrown out and reevaluated, too. They are ideas from a world with under 8 billion people, and I don't think most of them apply anymore.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbuLLqteWOvXWTJy4W by ItsTrainingCatsAndDogs@kolektiva.social
       2023-11-17T17:39:15Z
       
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       @holyramenempire @freakazoid @sidereal @Adam_Cadmon1 I just think watching countries switch to our uniquely American flavor of capitalism is how we got here (gestures at the whole world) and is where we'll stay without literally starting from scratch.   I don't see that happening without collapse.  It all sounds horrible.  I don't like it.  But all I can do to stop from losing my mind is be hopeful about it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbuLLrrYveqiWHLoS8 by ItsTrainingCatsAndDogs@kolektiva.social
       2023-11-17T17:40:58Z
       
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       @holyramenempire @freakazoid @sidereal @Adam_Cadmon1 omg, am I turning into a nihilist??  I hate it!
       
 (DIR) Post #AbuLLsqXGxcdZNsVUW by ItsTrainingCatsAndDogs@kolektiva.social
       2023-11-17T17:43:45Z
       
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       @holyramenempire @freakazoid @sidereal @Adam_Cadmon1 Wait a second!  My slightly photographic memory means I remember pre-Columbian religions in my college anthropology major and this was a theme I fixed on in all their religions:  imperialism followed by collapse and being hopeful about it.