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 (DIR) Post #AbprTfaSgCJvVSJgga by kravietz@agora.echelon.pl
       2023-11-15T15:59:49.075984Z
       
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       #Ukraine commander on Kupyansk axis Denis Yaroslavsky explains the principles of modern warfare:> One mortar shell costs us €300. To acquire a target, like an enemy trench, you need to fire one shell, look, correct, fire another and so on. This can take up to 10 rounds, and then you're still not guaranteed to destroy the target because they can be sitting down in a well protected shelter.> But then you've got a FPV drone which also costs €300 and just one can eliminate the whole position as it's able to fly precisely into the shelter e.g. carrying a thermobaric grenade.He also says while Ukraine was first to master the FPV drones, Russians usually copy everything in roughly 4 months.Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXyJfdRqFYM (Ukrainian)
       
 (DIR) Post #Abq2q92ewlz8j2QR1c by aureliuspublius@mastodon.social
       2023-11-15T16:30:42Z
       
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       @kravietz there's bound to be a curve for how inventive Ukrainians can be with modern war, and I suspect we are reaching the zenith of that curve due to technological limitations.
       
 (DIR) Post #Abq2uWGWXn6BuVzplA by kravietz@agora.echelon.pl
       2023-11-15T18:07:59.518638Z
       
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       @aureliuspublius Innovation is one side, but also sheer volumes do matter - especially volumes of FPV drones and their pilots.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbqATenVVtsIBd7sJs by aureliuspublius@mastodon.social
       2023-11-15T18:30:34Z
       
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       @kravietz which side has an advantage in acquisition of FPV drones at this stage of the war and where is it trending?
       
 (DIR) Post #AbqATfdGPTH6m9LCzY by kravietz@agora.echelon.pl
       2023-11-15T19:32:46.964413Z
       
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       @aureliuspublius Yaroslavsky says both Ukraine and Russia are buying from Chinese manufacturers at wholesale. He said occasionally they have to wait for Russian batch to be finished, then Russian waits for them etc. I think the advantage can be now achieved only by moving the manufacturing inland so into Ukraine and EU.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbqEo32PUuzayW4jlA by aureliuspublius@mastodon.social
       2023-11-15T19:39:23Z
       
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       @kravietz that explains why I've seen so much movement towards in-Europe manufacturing of drones. China must be making a killing from supplying both sides, even at wholesale.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbqEoxA8pMS12i7haK by DrGeraintLLanfrancheta@nafo.uk
       2023-11-15T20:08:29Z
       
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       @kravietz @aureliuspublius bizarre the batch thing. Capitalism + globalism meets land warfare. Uff.