Post AbkYoi5v8liX0mx16W by hazlin@nicecrew.digital
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(DIR) Post #AbkJq8mrstnQm6GO36 by hazlin@nicecrew.digital
2023-11-12T23:49:33.202348Z
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@Xenophon I feel like someone followed me a few days ago, and their bio said something about White identity... I'll see if I can find them. They don't seem to post much though.
(DIR) Post #AbkKLWmohq2CBTCp8q by Xenophon@nicecrew.digital
2023-11-12T23:55:13.342360Z
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wasn't me!Athough I have a question for you now, because I saw bowsacs post. What specific sin do you believe Christ committed?
(DIR) Post #AbkKLaI7ftrJ3QsMr2 by hazlin@nicecrew.digital
2023-11-12T23:55:14.246020Z
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@Xenophon I looked on all three accounts and didn't see them xD If they get my attention again, I'll be sure to connect you.
(DIR) Post #AbkKm2p8DMip4ivszg by hazlin@nicecrew.digital
2023-11-13T00:00:00.988940Z
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@Xenophon erm, let me just do some copy-pasta for you.The reaction has pretty much been universal... ignore what Christ did and said, and blindly quote scripture at me.I can only do a little bit of that, before I start questioning if people are retarded.It is like they think, Christ dying on a cross was an accident that brought Him to be accursed by the Law of God. So, we must overlook this fact! To protect God's word!---Have you not considered that the strongest rebuke in the Bible, comes to Job when he questions God for his treatment?Mark 1534... “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?”....But, He suffered such things for our sake. And, they always seemed to be intentional. For right after questioning God, He said “It is finished.”---Also---Deuteronomy 2122 If a man has committed a sin worthy of death, and he is executed, and you hang his body on a tree, 23 you must not leave the body on the tree overnight, but you must be sure to bury him that day, because anyone who is hung on a tree is under God’s curse. You must not defile the land that the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance.Galatians 313 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us. For it is written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree.”To violate the Law of God, is to sin. He sinned for our sake.---Additionally---It was by the Father's design that Jesus was brought into conflict with the Law, so that it should be put to death. Because, He suffers no accuser of His Son.---
(DIR) Post #AbkNZ83hjtYFPRHY2q by Xenophon@nicecrew.digital
2023-11-13T00:31:17.614566Z
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I made sure to read your posts before asking 😀 I just meant was there a specific thing He did in the bible that you believe was a sin to God, or was it just a sin to man? If we accept that Jesus did sin in one way, then how do we not accept that He sinned in others?I do have to agree with Bowsac about Mark. He is quoting Psalm 22, similar to in Luke 20>41 But he said to them, “How can they say that the Christ is David’s son? 42 For David himself says in the Book of Psalms,>‘The Lord said to my Lord,>Sit at my right hand,>43 till I make thy enemies a stool for thy feet.’>44 David thus calls him Lord; so how is he his son?”>45 And in the hearing of all the people he said to his disciples, 46 “Beware of the scribes, who like to go about in long robes, and love salutations in the market places and the best seats in the synagogues and the places of honor at feasts, 47 who devour widows’ houses and for a pretense make long prayers. They will receive the greater condemnation.”The more I read, the more I realized how performative Jesus's existence was. As God, He was trying to instruct us, even though from a superficial standpoint He often appears as a normal man. When I was young and did CCD/etc it was always explained that way. >Oh look, he was this great man, the son of God, and He died for our sins, but look how it was even difficult for Him?But like His praying in the garden of Gethsemane, it was for us, not Him, because He wasn't praying to Himself 🤷
(DIR) Post #AbkOGBQL6UWwIXOoNM by hazlin@nicecrew.digital
2023-11-13T00:39:04.779420Z
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@Xenophon Ahh, a sin to God, a much better question! Before the Law? Yes by design, ordained by prophecy. Before the jewish rulers? Yes! For they called for His blood. Before the presidents set by God in His interaction with people in the OT? Yes!But, Jesus pleased God in all He did.
(DIR) Post #AbkOLj3tSwyU4XXk9I by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
2023-11-13T00:40:04.646085Z
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@Xenophon @hazlin >His praying in the garden of Gethsemane, it was for us, not Him, because He wasn't praying to Himself 🤷Mystery of The Trinity, although maybe a both/and situation there. It fits with the fully divine and fully human to ask "if it is possible, take this cup from me. Nevertheless, not my will but yours be done". You can read that as both instructions for us for how to pray and handle challenges, but also as Jesus acknowledging his humanity by way of His divinity. In other words, He knew what was about to happen, He knew it would be horribly painful, He knew God could make it not happen (I believe Christ had the power to end the life of or stop those brutalizing Him with just a word), but He knew that His own will as a man was not what mattered in this circumstance and that God's perfect will and plan would and should be done.
(DIR) Post #AbkOaZOFhtuKQ68zbs by Xenophon@nicecrew.digital
2023-11-13T00:42:45.545915Z
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is there a specific law He broke? This isn't a gotcha. not trying to pick a fight, just curious where you are coming from.
(DIR) Post #AbkOqmspJ8W8txB6IK by Xenophon@nicecrew.digital
2023-11-13T00:45:40.987392Z
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I'm not a trinity respector. God is one. Jesus is Yahweh, fully, there is no separation imo. As I've said before, Jesus had to be 100% Yahweh in the flesh, because His death was a requirement under the law. >7 Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?>2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.>3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.>4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.Paul explains the law of remarriage to people whom in his own words, understand the law, because Jesus fulfilled this law of remarriage. They were dead to Yahweh through the sins of their ancestors, and His death allowed for their remarriage.As Hosea said (probably my favorite verse in the entire bible)>10 Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.
(DIR) Post #AbkPPS2Mny2yNrAZ1M by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
2023-11-13T00:51:57.578052Z
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@Xenophon @hazlin >Non-trinitarianAncestors cry 😢.
(DIR) Post #AbkPZM9hWmk32PK5hI by hazlin@nicecrew.digital
2023-11-13T00:53:44.414317Z
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@Xenophon I have cited them. But, maybe you are using a different paradigm of the law?21 Tell me, you who want to be under the law, do you not understand what the law says? 22 For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by the slave woman and the other by the free woman.....24 These things serve as illustrations,....
(DIR) Post #AbkQEsCXHsR2IaRhTc by Xenophon@nicecrew.digital
2023-11-13T01:01:15.047936Z
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the trinity is a heresy used to separate Jesus from Yahweh. How many congregations are there that claim to be NT only, as if Jesus supersedes God? And as I explained, a son cannot die to free his fathers wife from her adultery. Jesus MUST be God, or His death cannot fulfill the law, as Paul explains in Romans 7.
(DIR) Post #AbkQvfZI8G0HZQUpm4 by hazlin@nicecrew.digital
2023-11-13T01:08:59.311069Z
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@Xenophon @BowsacNoodle You make me feel so normal sometimes. I am blessed by having many fedi friends who believe wildly different things, but who still rely on Christ for their salvation.We are going to make it. Because God's Grace is more than enough.
(DIR) Post #AbkRHn5cqdUZGjAW12 by Xenophon@nicecrew.digital
2023-11-13T01:12:58.986387Z
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I've heard people argue, both White and non-White, that the only reason I am Christian, and not some other religion, is because of the race I was born. How true that is...
(DIR) Post #AbkRcxNjmFXzGpjVOi by caekislove@gleasonator.com
2023-11-13T01:16:47.888147Z
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@Xenophon @hazlin @BowsacNoodle A while back I watched an interview with a former North Korean secret policeman and he talked about one time where they found a group of about 20 North Korean Christians who had taken down the pictures of the "great leaders" and replaced them with a cross. they sat in front of it as a group and studied bibles that were smuggled into the country. They were all arrested and swiftly executed, since the government knew from experience that trying to get them to renounce Christ was a waste of time. I wish my faith was even 1/10th as strong as that.
(DIR) Post #AbkRvDiRmojB8s81q4 by pinemarten@poa.st
2023-11-13T01:20:06.481322Z
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@caekislove @Xenophon @hazlin @BowsacNoodle True martyrs. In Heaven now.
(DIR) Post #AbkT682FLaGofC9fEW by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
2023-11-13T01:33:17.015847Z
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@hazlin @Xenophon >having many fedi friends who believe wildly different things, but who still rely on Christ for their salvation.It is interesting, and the last part of that is the most important. If people trust in Christ but have views I find whacky while still trying to live as Christ instructed and following the two greatest commandments, I'm not going to make it my place to condemn them. The exception is when they use those beliefs to justify their own sins or lead others astray.>God's grace is more than enoughAmen.
(DIR) Post #AbkTBxGEJqxIz6TQeG by givenup@poa.st
2023-11-13T01:34:20.533344Z
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@BowsacNoodle @hazlin @Xenophon do i got whacky views?
(DIR) Post #AbkUlAFa7GZhMPWVtY by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
2023-11-13T01:51:54.177007Z
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@givenup @hazlin @Xenophon I don't know. That wasn't addressed towards anyone in particular, honestly. It is a matter of fact statement to me, as I've met strong believers of many denominations. I've felt "evil" and "good" presence before from people I didn't know that was later confirmed by their words and statements of faith. It doesn't happen daily, but enough times to remind me it's real.
(DIR) Post #AbkV0DO0jsgpQjdv4C by King_Noticer@poa.st
2023-11-13T01:54:37.706765Z
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@BowsacNoodle @givenup @hazlin @Xenophon I’m very evil, but I want to not to be anymore :bocchibreakdown: That’s why I turned to God
(DIR) Post #AbkVlqWd2TCiQbNzyi by hazlin@nicecrew.digital
2023-11-13T02:03:14.338030Z
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@BowsacNoodle @Xenophon On paper, I'd rather my neighbor keep the two greatest commandments than to live against them, but it seems like death to require anything beyond faith for God's approval.However, I think God's Grace is enough to cover that, so I find myself, not always speaking up on such things.
(DIR) Post #AbkVwt2W1z8DPZZ7dw by blankdeblank@nicecrew.digital
2023-11-13T02:05:14.080664Z
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You know what they say right ? Trust your neighbor but brand your cattle.
(DIR) Post #AbkWgn6UQtM0K3JTxg by Xenophon@nicecrew.digital
2023-11-13T02:13:29.761113Z
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I'd like to go back to the original topic and throw a wrench in it.When we talk about sin, we tend to mean the last image, from webster. Sin is a transgression of God and His law. But the first and second images respectively, are what the word means in Hebrew and Greek.To sin is to err, go wrong, or miss the mark.Do you think Jesus went wrong? Did he miss the mark, or fault?
(DIR) Post #AbkXIxMwiMLxAFD25w by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
2023-11-13T02:20:25.474721Z
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@hazlin @Xenophon >it seems like death to require anything beyond faith for God's approval.Yes. I am explicitly NOT trying to rehash the faith v works arguments, but mentioned that in the context of heterodoxies and the like.
(DIR) Post #AbkXWi9e4vYG20XxI0 by caekislove@gleasonator.com
2023-11-13T02:22:53.351276Z
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@BowsacNoodle @hazlin @Xenophon I feel that sometimes, rarely, particularly powerful faith can overcome lack of works and vice versa. I also feel it's mostly an academic question since regular people can, should and are capable of both good faith and good works.
(DIR) Post #AbkYGNINxpfoevPPSC by blankdeblank@nicecrew.digital
2023-11-13T02:31:09.963522Z
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Sin can be repented from, away from it. Even though repentment is the way God knows our heart and the wrath of God always finds it's mark. Jonah 3 10 When God saw what they did and how they turned from their evil ways, he relented and did not bring on them the destruction he had threatened.Point being God always hits the mark always in every way.
(DIR) Post #AbkYoi5v8liX0mx16W by hazlin@nicecrew.digital
2023-11-13T02:37:20.183989Z
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@Xenophon @BowsacNoodle ahh, I think breaking this down into the different jurisdictions answers that. I believe I answered with 3 yes and a no.regressing the question back to a point, where the jurisdiction isn't specified, is to have a pointless discussion.
(DIR) Post #AbkaBrBRc5pDod8T7g by Frondeur@poa.st
2023-11-13T02:52:45.549989Z
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@givenup @BowsacNoodle @hazlin @Xenophon i dont know your views but id wager...yes...
(DIR) Post #AbkaSIarTId1SXreiG by Frondeur@poa.st
2023-11-13T02:55:41.461164Z
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@Xenophon @hazlin @BowsacNoodle i dont see any evidence that Job's questioning of God was a sin...
(DIR) Post #Abkaj3qNZ1OedY7DeK by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
2023-11-13T02:58:45.344834Z
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@caekislove @Xenophon @hazlin I think people get too autistic in discussion of this because we like to categorize things and make rules and neat boxes for things even though it should be simpler than that. I have a longer response I deleted because I'm explicitly not trying to have this discussion and I create a lot of religious hellthreads.
(DIR) Post #AbkauAz3MGj7xyTNKK by hazlin@nicecrew.digital
2023-11-13T03:00:46.149176Z
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@BowsacNoodle @Xenophon I can appreciate that. I'm a big fan, of leading people into good things, and to lead them away from fires.How can someone who knowingly leads his neighbor into destruction be anything but an enemy to all?Saying things that like feels so right. Knowing and treating someone like your enemy... when they are you enemy is important. My personal experience is that, God has often rescued me from carrying the burden of what is right and what is wrong. Such burdens feel right, but they always draw me into pride. So, for myself, I only really feel comfortable teaching Grace. A careless faith in God, seems the most correct. Not once, has He ever let me stumble when I set aside the knowledge of good and evil, only relying on Him to keep me from falling. In fact, every time my life has gotten better.Now, if only I could more consistently decline those most righteous of burdens.
(DIR) Post #Abkbh9rcJKJKgNLosS by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
2023-11-13T03:09:34.491611Z
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@hazlin @Xenophon >How can someone who knowingly leads his neighbor into destruction be anything but an enemy to all?That's different from your neighbor, IMO. I am not a fan of small hat gang, but if I saw a guy stuck in the snow in -20 degrees, I'm not going to ask his religious and ethnic background before I try and push him out. I'm also not an idiot and will not do this in buffalo NY after dark.
(DIR) Post #AbkcQliARP6H60gCm0 by blankdeblank@nicecrew.digital
2023-11-13T03:17:51.156575Z
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Jesus spent a lot of time going to the temple and talking to jews. Why because they try to miniplate you, to use you and your circumcised heart. God loves you, because of this we know he doesn't want people to mistreat you. He calls them out, he identifies them to there works and so we should be careful because that's what people that truly love us want for us in this life. To live a good life and not be hurt as much as possible.