Post AbRUIwiIRlXx3tPBgW by stevensrmiller@mastodon.sdf.org
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 (DIR) Post #AbPmV4OF8oLvCi2JeK by Ricardus@mastodon.sdf.org
       2023-11-03T02:01:43Z
       
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       So remember that whole sub implosion thing from a dew months ago? Anything new on that?
       
 (DIR) Post #AbPsDFFecS8TP1u1R2 by prokyonid@mastodon.sdf.org
       2023-11-03T03:05:43Z
       
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       @Ricardus Someone's making a movie about it. There's not much else new that could happen with it is there?
       
 (DIR) Post #AbQTb2o4EmTG3kD7YG by stevensrmiller@mastodon.sdf.org
       2023-11-03T10:04:30Z
       
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       @Ricardus Report from October 11 states the last of the debris, including human remains, has been recovered.https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67073535
       
 (DIR) Post #AbQdhTj04Gs6p9XzMG by Ricardus@mastodon.sdf.org
       2023-11-03T11:57:48Z
       
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       @prokyonid I thought there would be a wreckage reconstruction like they do with aircraft.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbQlWM2F7IZvQHkq0G by prokyonid@mastodon.sdf.org
       2023-11-03T13:25:25Z
       
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       @Ricardus The USN search team put out a report stating basically they picked up sound signatures consistent with an implosion in the area where they found the debris field at the same time MV Polar Prince lost contact with Titan, suggesting the pressure hull failed. I think that's about as far as any org is going to go - it was a shoddily-built craft operating in international waters.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbQyelV9cGlI7scOki by prokyonid@mastodon.sdf.org
       2023-11-03T13:26:36Z
       
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       @Ricardus Due to the pressures involved, there probably isn't enough left to figure out what part of the pressure hull failed first.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbQyenOUa0cZznW6e8 by Ricardus@mastodon.sdf.org
       2023-11-03T15:52:33Z
       
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       @prokyonid A structural engineer somewhere on youtube actually did a pressure analysis and found the likely failure points. Of course it was either the window, the joints where the titanium end-caps were epoxied, or the carbon-fiber tube itself.It was such a questionable design I'm shocked that French oceanographer agreed to go down. He should have known better.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbQyqHUp08k4XbxDMW by Ricardus@mastodon.sdf.org
       2023-11-03T15:54:42Z
       
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       @stevensrmiller I'm shocked there were any recoverable human remains considering the physics involved.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbRUIwiIRlXx3tPBgW by stevensrmiller@mastodon.sdf.org
       2023-11-03T21:46:53Z
       
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       @Ricardus Pictures make it clear that the hemispherical end-caps were pretty much undamaged. I suspect there is enough material left from the bodies of the occupants that they can be identified as such. Not really any need for a DNA analysis or anything like that, I suppose. We know who was on the thing.Human remains don't last long in the ocean, though. I'm more surprised there were any left to recover after four months.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbRaezgEhFN4MJL0qW by Ricardus@mastodon.sdf.org
       2023-11-03T22:58:26Z
       
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       @stevensrmiller The end caps were titanium so they should be in good shape for sure.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbRpeEEGcKdQVKLgRM by stevensrmiller@mastodon.sdf.org
       2023-11-04T01:46:23Z
       
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       @Ricardus Yeah, it would have taken more pressure to crush them than what it was that crushed the tubular part made of (goodgawd!) carbon fiber. What I think is significant about that to the recovery of human tissue is that there was a large volume of the submersible that did not implode. Depending upon where the occupants were at that moment, and how the forces involved moved things around, I think remains might well have ended up in those intact titanium caps.