Post AaraE7dAjiCtEbPgJs by RandomDamage@infosec.exchange
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(DIR) Post #AaqJhgBHSx4GPPup28 by killyourfm@layer8.space
2023-10-16T23:24:00Z
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I don’t know how to feel about the #Bandcamp situation. It certainly doesn’t decrease my disdain for Epic Games, and I’m disgusted by Songtradr’s stance of “supporting the band camp community is our top priority but let’s fire half the staff.”But what’s the alternative? Isn’t it the only well-known music platform that doesn’t screw over musicians? Are there other places where I can launch a vinyl release for no upfront cost? Control my pricing? Musicians need to take back this industry. how?
(DIR) Post #AaqKqtRZcmPs6SUfsu by ahoneybun@hachyderm.io
2023-10-16T23:36:51Z
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@killyourfm maybe something like this? https://funkwhale.audio/
(DIR) Post #AaqLFarNr5kthrLPAe by daswickerman@mastodon.social
2023-10-16T23:41:16Z
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@killyourfm I honestly think there's a solid argument to build something on top of activity pub and the fediverse that meets those basic needs.
(DIR) Post #AaqLblppjOW47EC59U by killyourfm@layer8.space
2023-10-16T23:45:21Z
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@daswickerman Absolutely. And I would support that however I could. Unfortunately, I don’t know the first thing about building it, or even rallying the right people to build it.
(DIR) Post #AaqLo4MSg1Nn35Jtnk by daswickerman@mastodon.social
2023-10-16T23:47:34Z
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@killyourfm Yeah, I know enough to guide that kind of project, but I'm not a programmer and have a day job so my time would be limited. I imagine we could rally people to the cause. I heard there's a wealth of former bandcamp staff looking for work.
(DIR) Post #AaqLyjjLipRgFU70kK by killyourfm@layer8.space
2023-10-16T23:49:30Z
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@daswickerman Well listen, if things get to the point where signal boosts and marketing help is needed come find me.
(DIR) Post #AaqM5VBWCVwNABVvKC by karschsp@jawns.club
2023-10-16T23:50:40Z
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@killyourfm I saw someone earlier mention this: https://resonate.coop/I know nothing about it but plan to look into it…
(DIR) Post #AaqMAW9U246TbvxBpY by daswickerman@mastodon.social
2023-10-16T23:51:36Z
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@killyourfm Definitely. I'm talking to a few people about it and if we can come up with something viable, I'll make sure you know. Really just following the Mastodon model, with revenue share off sales to cover server costs (and maintaining a large percentage back to the artist) would be ideal. Plus, activitypub integration for easier sharing and cross-platform integration.
(DIR) Post #AaqMqsvTkUooPEbbDk by ReverseModule@mstdn.games
2023-10-16T23:59:18Z
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@killyourfm I think the only solution is a social platform dedicated to music/videos. The main thing people miss most about Youtube is the music that's on there. The Fediverse is a good basis for that but releasing physical copies of records means professionals would need to be involved. Unfortunately, I suck at programming anything but games but if need be I can also contribute any way I can. If anyone has connections to the music industry they should definitely propose something like this.
(DIR) Post #AaqN7RSF8mes7xpFjc by killyourfm@layer8.space
2023-10-17T00:02:17Z
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@ReverseModule @killyourfm I think the only solution is a social platform dedicated to music/videos.” So basically, the world needs MySpace circa 2004.
(DIR) Post #AaqNmVVoxWJCaL53mi by killyourfm@layer8.space
2023-10-17T00:09:42Z
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@karschsp At a glance this definitely looks like something to pay attention to. Thank you.
(DIR) Post #AaqNt515rq9kRBqHXE by ReverseModule@mstdn.games
2023-10-17T00:10:48Z
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@killyourfm Not exactly what I had in mind but that is not a bad idea either.I was thinking something like PeerTube but for music. So the music or video, comments and likes. Also Playlists would be essential.Keep it simple and efficient. That's always the way I do things.A brainstorming post about this would be a nice idea imo.
(DIR) Post #AaqONOp2nLa4YEfClM by killyourfm@layer8.space
2023-10-17T00:16:22Z
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@ReverseModule While I was only half-kidding, I do seriously agree that the Fediverse offers a solid model for whatever comes next. In the meantime, I'm going to hope beyond hope that Bandcamp doesn't become a complete dumpster fire before I'm ready to release my album...
(DIR) Post #AaqOqRroYOv4OMoLce by ReverseModule@mstdn.games
2023-10-17T00:21:37Z
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@killyourfm I am not very familiar with what's happening there but a music-based platform is much easier than PeerTube. Songs take up like 5 MBs each and professional musicians are far less than video content creators.The more I think about it, the more astounded I am noone has actually implemented this yet.I would even go so far as to allow creators to implement ads on their page if they would like, Controversial but I think that would attract many of them to at least give it a shot.
(DIR) Post #AaqQWg8vxwDkmkWGSO by ReverseModule@mstdn.games
2023-10-17T00:40:27Z
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@killyourfm I made a post on Lemmy about this. This is so interesting to me I'm thinking of even remaking a Reddit account to bring up the conversation there as well. XDHere's the link to the thread:https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/4837553
(DIR) Post #AaqS55dlm1JbfDumps by killyourfm@layer8.space
2023-10-17T00:57:52Z
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@steven At least it wasn't sold to a major record label... Sure that sounds insane, but then I look at what's happening in the gaming industry.
(DIR) Post #AaqU5IReMmQ7HiTLc0 by passthejoe@ruby.social
2023-10-17T01:20:18Z
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@killyourfm @steven I worry about worse buyers.
(DIR) Post #AaqiNksYmqDS2fksuu by teajaygrey@rap.social
2023-10-17T04:00:24Z
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@killyourfm Musicians have never been in control of their industry.Therein lies the rub. ;-/Bandcamp was a best effort, but p2p put the writing on the wall long before.If you care about *distribution* that is optimized, and agnostic of what data is being distributed, BitTorrent got things correct and it's hard to improve upon meaningfully for bandwidth optimization.If you care about monetization, that is where payola/entrenched "biz" music industry was, and still is and presumably always will be.If you care about art.Well, almost no one actually does. They may say they do, but they don't, not really.That is where rando turntablist deejays such as I sink ungodly amounts of money into releases so rare they sometimes aren't even in double digits and when we spin, dance floors are almost always empty, but the few who are part of our audience, continue to thank us even weeks later for blowing their minds, yet again. I have some releases on pre-order from over a year ago, who knows when I may get them? But, I do what I can to support similar beyond the galaxy creative sorts as best I can and still struggle with patience and finances.Don't get me wrong, Bandcamp streamlined music purchases online better than just about anyone else, but I never stopped diggin in the crates, going to local music shops and shows, and no one who actually cares about music deeply should ever rely on any one source. Apple is currently the biggest on Earth and despite FINALLY open sourcing ALAC, you cannot buy lossless audio from Apple, at all. It's a disgrace.
(DIR) Post #AaqrE7aiO6YJArtCqW by RyunoKi@layer8.space
2023-10-17T05:39:37Z
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@killyourfm Have you heard of @funkwhale ?
(DIR) Post #AaqsGVkJeSD0cf5F2W by tyil@fedi.tyil.nl
2023-10-17T05:51:26.101Z
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@killyourfm@layer8.spaceBut what’s the alternative?🏴☠️
(DIR) Post #AarVNsAUa5YgP3pQhs by kelbot@retro.social
2023-10-17T13:09:33Z
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@killyourfm I keep thinking about itch.io having potential. It's mostly games but there is music and other non-game things on there too. Itch doesn't even take a minimum commission on sales. They let creators choose how much if any they want to give to itch to support the platform. Itch might actually have a real opportunity to grow here if they put some effort into music.https://itch.io/docs/creators/faq
(DIR) Post #AaraE7dAjiCtEbPgJs by RandomDamage@infosec.exchange
2023-10-17T14:03:49Z
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@killyourfm it's the same sticky problem that all artists have "how do we make our work accessible and get paid for it?"Centralized platforms have a huge advantage when it comes to discoverability, so maybe something community-owned with bylaws that prevent it from being trivially bought out by corporate interests?
(DIR) Post #AarpO9TQEqYJ9r5qgy by gemlog@tilde.zone
2023-10-17T16:53:43Z
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@killyourfm Not a musician, so only two things come to mind. Something I read recently and a known fedi app.Creating a Self-Hosted Music Storefront using AWS S3 and SendOwl – Jessica B. Kelly & The Void Conspiracyhttps://www.voidconspiracy.com/creating-a-self-hosted-music-storefront-using-aws-s3-and-sendowl/and promote and support funkwhale https://funkwhale.audio/