Post AaOujGZ2b2HfXMWkDY by colinaut@dice.camp
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 (DIR) Post #AaN4S1bPa5ijR88LMu by keithjgrant@front-end.social
       2023-09-29T13:58:10Z
       
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       I think this hits the nail on the head. This is precisely my issue with #tailwind. It actively ignores one of the most powerful aspects of #CSS:“I think that Tailwind might be a good example of an imperative design tool. It’s only about the specific outputs. Systematic thinking is actively discouraged; instead you say exactly what you want the final pixels on the screen to be.”https://adactio.com/journal/18982
       
 (DIR) Post #AaN4S3SGh3axBLs4OW by keithjgrant@front-end.social
       2023-09-29T14:05:15Z
       
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       See also, this old post of mine: #csshttps://keithjgrant.com/posts/2018/06/resilient-declarative-contextual/
       
 (DIR) Post #AaOffeyqNRGQn9Q17g by colinaut@dice.camp
       2023-10-03T04:31:47Z
       
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       @keithjgrant @vanilla personally I don’t feel this applies. I have always been a proponent of the flexibility of design in regards to css rather than pixel perfect and yet I use and really like Tailwind. Utility classes are just css in the end. My resulting site designs aren’t any different than if I were to write css the “normal” way. It’s just that for some projects tailwind makes it faster to iterate and the resulting css file is smaller.
       
 (DIR) Post #AaOfffyAhQJvrM6ziK by vanilla@social.spicyweb.dev
       2023-10-03T15:18:10Z
       
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       @colinaut @keithjgrant Your resulting output might "look" the same, but peek under the hood and it's radically different. Besides all the craft-level issues with Tailwind (loss of industry knowledge of CSS syntax & modular architecture, lack of interop, vendor lock-in, accessibility in code editing, etc.), it's also hell to debug utility-classes-in-HTML or effectively modify styling of the page after the fact (violating Right to Inspect).Web design is more than “does this look right”
       
 (DIR) Post #AaOujGZ2b2HfXMWkDY by colinaut@dice.camp
       2023-10-03T18:06:47Z
       
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       @vanilla @keithjgrant I've been at this game since css was a baby. I understand Tailwind has it's pros and cons — solidly the big one is the "yet another dependency build process". I weigh these whenever I start a new project, like I do any other dependency. I get why people wouldn't want it — I myself don't always use it. I will say that I personally don't find debugging or modifying an issue. In fact, the opposite. I've had way more issues with debugging rat's nest css files over the years.