Post AZzWf2v08N66CnFuEa by dsfgs@activism.openworlds.info
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(DIR) Post #AZzWf2v08N66CnFuEa by dsfgs@activism.openworlds.info
2023-09-21T11:09:34Z
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Is #Mastodon really viable for the small to medium-sized operator?We assert, "NO!"We did something simple. With a Mastodon tab open we hit Ctrl+Shift+E to get the Network Tab. With an inactive thread open in Mastodon, we went to *another website* to read an article.An hour passes and what we discovered shocked us. Mastodon somehow justified sending us 55MB of data. The #NetworkTab said 55MB over 1500 requests (53MB transferred).#makeJavascriptOptional #fireFish @gabriel @witchescauldron
(DIR) Post #AZzWf3p0m7tt0VSdXM by dsfgs@activism.openworlds.info
2023-09-21T11:20:32Z
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What Mastodon is doing is #environmentalVandalism, and an excoriating #waste of internet resources and bandwidth.We really did not expect this.It's also socially irresponsible as smaller operators struggle to cope with M'don's demands. Our instance for example is being forced to shutdown due to being unable to handle the $40/month cost.It means more #centralisation. We're back at square one, because most users tolerated M'don bringing anti-features to #Fediverse.@gabriel @witchescauldron
(DIR) Post #AZzWf4hxTpqvkvAWBM by dsfgs@activism.openworlds.info
2023-09-21T11:42:56Z
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It gets worse.In 29 minutes, while typing the above, 62MB sent over 1200 requests (61 MB transferred).Mastodon is a problem.In an announcement our admin team did say that with a donation they may be able to shift to a different type of server, and we think that that is probably the most sensible thing to do. Ideally a type of server that respects the planet. Here's hoping that some funds appear.One cannot say they care about #climateChange and run #MastodonFE.@witchescauldron
(DIR) Post #AZzWf5Lf6Dbzk3kE4G by yakovlevegor@masto.nu
2023-09-21T11:49:02Z
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@dsfgs @witchescauldronNever read such nonsence.Bitcoin kills the planet while Mastodon liberates social media.
(DIR) Post #AZzWf5zMibN3jCJvxA by bonifartius@qoto.org
2023-09-21T12:09:38Z
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@yakovlevegor @dsfgs @witchescauldron why is this nonsense, where does bitcoin come into play?
(DIR) Post #Aa0pgi9WP7xAfSVypE by gabriel@mk.gabe.rocks
2023-09-22T03:17:34.851Z
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@dsfgs@activism.openworlds.info you tagged the wrong gabe!
(DIR) Post #Aa0qCGO1AplnoqLAyu by dsfgs@activism.openworlds.info
2023-09-22T03:23:04Z
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@gabriel Of course we did. :)
(DIR) Post #Aa0s2OjHV3DKhsi4WG by gabriel@mk.gabe.rocks
2023-09-22T03:43:54.575Z
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@dsfgs@activism.openworlds.info If I understand correctly (been a while since I've used mastodon), you're saying that the federated timeline is using a ton of data and requests?I'll say I'm not too shocked because if images load by default that adds a ton of traffic just passively moving along. This leads me to an interesting argument against de-federation. In terms of pure wasted energy redundant bots, (or even redundant accounts) is a huge waste of everyone's resources...Forcing many large instances to subscribe to a different NY Times bot multiplied by every influencer or institution that people want updates from...would just be madness.I think you're right that explore feeds and other mechanism encourage bad behavior, but I think it's the behavior that causes the waste not necessarily the way it all works. I'm sure that specific scenario could be mitigated a ton by the server serving a very lossy compressed thumbnail that people can opt in/out of seeing by default.
(DIR) Post #Aa0sR75wCZcnFn5nWq by dcc@annihilation.social
2023-09-22T03:48:09.138563Z
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@gabriel @dsfgs Images are what makes up most of this data, nothing here is surprising nor anything important.
(DIR) Post #Aa0se7qaiPr1Lt7R9E by gabriel@mk.gabe.rocks
2023-09-22T03:50:43.851Z
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@dsfgs@activism.openworlds.info In general I do believe that efficiency is good and waste is best to avoid or at least mitigate. When it comes to environment (or climate 🙄) discussions I do find it hard not to become immensely apathetic about people nit-picking each other's choices of energy use.EROEI, Doomberg, & Planet of the Humans are things that give me the impression that there is no capacity for the halls of power to even be honest about attempts to mitigate ecological damage and resource bottlenecks...much less begin to resolve in a reasonable or even sane way.TL:DR Revolution is the only environmental activism yetBut Hey! I could be wrong, maybe RFK Jr will surprise us all!
(DIR) Post #Aa0skbCQUuaU7jQ2M4 by gabriel@mk.gabe.rocks
2023-09-22T03:51:53.626Z
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@dsfgs@activism.openworlds.info In general I do believe that efficiency is good and waste is best to avoid or at least mitigate. When it comes to environment (or climate 🙄) discussions I do find it hard not to become immensely apathetic about people nit-picking each other's choices of energy use.EROEI, Doomberg, & Planet of the Humans are things that give me the impression that there is no capacity for the halls of power to even be honest about attempts to mitigate ecological damage and resource bottlenecks...much less begin to resolve in a reasonable or even sane way.TL:DR Revolution is the only environmental activism left.But Hey! I could be wrong, maybe RFK Jr will surprise us all!
(DIR) Post #Aa0sr5984KoMjuy51k by eolach@crlf.ninja
2023-09-22T03:53:03.253371Z
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Glad to see someone criticizing the software rather than the smooth-brained individuals that use it for once. Both are awful, mind you.
(DIR) Post #Aa1g0rUea1wV2uKS4u by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2023-09-22T13:03:45.015564Z
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@dsfgs That's why you run BloatFE and maybe Pleroma.