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(DIR) Post #AZowQFlkiIk4XrnFwG by mjg59@nondeterministic.computer
2023-09-16T09:35:01Z
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I've been spending about half my time this summer with a 500MBit symmetric link, and the other half at about 20MBit. It's genuinely kind of surprising how little difference this has ended up making.
(DIR) Post #AZowh1duUMQ1ei7g6S by mjg59@nondeterministic.computer
2023-09-16T09:38:17Z
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Some of this is that I tend to do a bunch of git pulls before heading into the forest so the amount of extra data I need to grab while I'm out there is somewhat reduced, but it's also that I'm rarely in a situation where I'm blocked on a synchronous download rather than being able to carry on coding while stuff happens in the background
(DIR) Post #AZowsqjwqlmhJhaLmS by mjg59@nondeterministic.computer
2023-09-16T09:39:50Z
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This would definitely be a different story if I dealt with more data-heavy workloads, but it turns out that the kind of link I had 15 years ago is still plenty to do my job - the difference between 1MBit and 20MBit is way more than the difference between 20 and 500
(DIR) Post #AZoxOKVwCWQCdW2iwq by klausman@mas.to
2023-09-16T09:43:00Z
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@mjg59 I think when people look back to the days of 56k and before, they underestimate how much _latency_ has improved along with bandwidth. And not just latency of the first link, but all across the net.
(DIR) Post #AZoxjBG1oOyQ0bXmAC by ChrSt@hachyderm.io
2023-09-16T09:46:24Z
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@mjg59 recently downgraded to 100/30MBit from 500/100MBit (because we moved). So far we are not missing a thing. 3 PPL working full time remote jobs
(DIR) Post #AZoxvWW6b1NpPzwuvo by sapient@mas.to
2023-09-16T09:48:33Z
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@mjg59 where i am with comcast I've got the option of 400 down 5mbps up or 100 down and 20 up and both are totally fine but its interesting how they decided to slow uploads so much for the higher speeds
(DIR) Post #AZoyoCxd0Tg4h2tlTs by simonzerafa@infosec.exchange
2023-09-16T09:55:40Z
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@mjg59 In reality 1Gbit Symmetric isn't that much faster but if your sending and receiving large files or other large transfer especially for multiple users it can improve subjective performance 🙂
(DIR) Post #AZoz1F6mKj637POTvE by mjg59@nondeterministic.computer
2023-09-16T09:56:39Z
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@simonzerafa The experience of installing Starfield was quite different in each scenario
(DIR) Post #AZoz9rsQ4qUxfnn4Jk by mjg59@nondeterministic.computer
2023-09-16T09:57:18Z
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@mia Sometimes we're "Huh moving back to Ireland seems like a sensible plan" and then we look at what's involved in getting (a) internet and (b) testosterone
(DIR) Post #AZp1fz4p2iVnB928vo by plambrechtsen@mastodon.nz
2023-09-16T10:32:33Z
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@mjg59 in NZ it’s very common to have fibre 100/500. But in my view anything over 25mbit aka a single HD stream per person is icing on the cake. Once your latency is down to sub 5ms to your BNG then everything is good.I still think for most households 200/100 is the perfect speed. As long as traffic is policed correctly so you have no packet loss.And those people posting speed tests are compensating for something.
(DIR) Post #AZp1qOjuU5crfMDZ1U by _hic_haec_hoc@fosstodon.org
2023-09-16T10:33:07Z
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@mjg59 during the pandemic I found myself using X11 forwarding (don't ask) over a VPN over a 70/20 Mbit FTTC link and it worked surprisingly well (even for Chromium!). It definitely made me reevaluate what kind of connection one truly needs...
(DIR) Post #AZp21V2TP5GwOAC6TY by mjg59@nondeterministic.computer
2023-09-16T10:35:06Z
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@_hic_haec_hoc If you can stream a 4K HDR video in 16MBit I feel like you should *definitely* be able to fit Chrome in there(Yes I know it's unfair in that the video encoding has perfect knowledge of the future and Chrome doesn't, but also Chrome spends most of its time looking identical so)
(DIR) Post #AZp2a77eJgWoLf7XU0 by leonidas@mastodon.social
2023-09-16T10:43:59Z
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@mjg59 It is similar for me, and despite having a 1000MBit link I notice that it is pure vanity. Growing up with super slow Internet has made seem everything remotely fast pretty much adequate.(The only place where it annoys me would be slow loading media like images or video, but textual content or downloads are rarely ever a noticeable concern)
(DIR) Post #AZp5rqkiDZtUeXXaUa by steve@mastodon.nexusuk.org
2023-09-16T11:18:53Z
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@mjg59 most people don't need anywhere near the bandwidth they have these days. I often have conversations with customers:-I'm upgrading to gigabit, will $hardware cope?-You never go above 10Mbps.-But we want to upgrade because ISP is offering it for not much extra money.-<sigh> Yes, $hardware will cope because you'll still never exceed 10Mbps...I don't get the desire to pay to replace a 10x more than you need connection for a 100x one, no matter how good a deal the ISP offers.
(DIR) Post #AZpI3PHLOBsiMz55vs by tedmielczarek@mastodon.social
2023-09-16T13:36:49Z
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@mjg59 the biggest impact I see is if there are multiple people in the house, and if some of them are doing videoconferencing while others are watching streaming video. It adds up quickly in that situation!
(DIR) Post #AZpZDSu0TCcbizXzlY by djcapelis@hachyderm.io
2023-09-16T16:48:56Z
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@mjg59 for me I think the biggest deal for me is latency, if it’s below 100ms then throughput is not super noticeable. Above and… I start to feel like things are slow.
(DIR) Post #AZwt6htjh93bihJUbw by jyrgenn@mas.to
2023-09-20T05:34:43Z
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@mjg59 Totally agree. Still for me it is a matter of joy (and admittedly vanity) to have the fastest link I can get at my place. (Which is 250/40 Mbps over VDSL with lots of vectoring. No Fiber, sadly.)1 Gbps (symmetric) would be where I'd say "that is enough", and not only because my local network isn't faster. 1 Gbps has a kind of symbolic quality of "that is *really* *really* fast", at least for people like me who grew up lusting after T1 or E1 bandwidths.