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(DIR) Post #AZpYKUslPIeZwEksgC by brewsterkahle@mastodon.archive.org
2023-09-16T16:40:12Z
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aren't "group think" and "collective intelligence" synonyms? yet...hum.how am I getting this wrong?
(DIR) Post #AZpZ5aHr888yJLwdY8 by rm4@mstdn.social
2023-09-16T16:46:18Z
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@brewsterkahle Group think has the connotation of some people not thinking and just holding to x because the group holds x
(DIR) Post #AZpZueGE7E1RP7X2Yq by peterbutler@mas.to
2023-09-16T16:58:17Z
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@brewsterkahle The usage of group think is pejorative, implying that many people are mindlessly following an accepted beliefCollective intelligence implies a group of people all contributing their unique intelligence to develop a best answer or solution
(DIR) Post #AZpbhwFm6jWJLqO6oi by weaselx86@mastodon.social
2023-09-16T17:18:10Z
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@brewsterkahle It's a matter of conjugation:WE have collective intelligence.THEY have group think.I am adventurous.YOU are kinky.THEY are perverted.
(DIR) Post #AZphOYRN1EoTifx464 by brewsterkahle@mastodon.archive.org
2023-09-16T18:21:47Z
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@steffo Yes, I agree. I have heard the "collective intelligence" term used in distributed deliberation. but I was struck by the similarity of the terms, and wonder if there is something going on-- like my convincing myself of something, and selectively.and thank you, @tychotithonus for the "herd mentality" addition-- exactly.
(DIR) Post #AZphlX7S66agHYamOG by tychotithonus@infosec.exchange
2023-09-16T16:50:31Z
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@rm4 @brewsterkahle Yep - the former is pejorative / "herd mentality", while the latter could simply be crowdsourcing
(DIR) Post #AZphlbIEZxalE9fRke by brewsterkahle@mastodon.archive.org
2023-09-16T18:24:50Z
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@tychotithonus @rm4 Nice one, yes, "herd mentality" is the same combo. I hope the distributed evidence gathering and deliberation which I have heard associated with 'collective intelligence' yields better results-- for some definition of "better"
(DIR) Post #AZpibBSPsfvs9p1jcG by brewsterkahle@mastodon.archive.org
2023-09-16T18:35:39Z
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chatgpt gives some more: 1/2Certainly! Here are some similar phrases to "herd mentality" and "groupthink" that convey similar concepts: Mob Mentality Pack Mentality Collective Behavior Crowd Psychology Conformity Bias Social Conformity Peer Pressure Mass Hysteria Conformist Thinking Swarm IntelligenceThese phrases allude to the tendency of individuals to conform to the behavior, opinions, or decisions of a larger group or society.
(DIR) Post #AZpiu0PFC1o1NvWBBw by brewsterkahle@mastodon.archive.org
2023-09-16T18:36:27Z
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Certainly! Here are some expressions related to "collective intelligence" that convey a similar idea of shared knowledge, wisdom, or insight: Group Wisdom Collaborative Intelligence Shared Knowledge Crowdsourced Wisdom Community Intelligence Joint Wisdom Collaborative Wisdom Unified Intellect Concerted Knowledge Combined UnderstandingThese expressions emphasize the pooling of knowledge,insights,and intelligence from a collective or group of individuals.
(DIR) Post #AZpjoB1EvD8sW64gq0 by josh@fediscience.org
2023-09-16T18:49:04Z
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@brewsterkahle Culture.
(DIR) Post #AZpk7AcUd7IImTYYoS by bengo@mastodon.social
2023-09-16T18:50:11Z
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@brewsterkahle https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mana_(Mandaeism)
(DIR) Post #AZpkNtjmeSIFLNwWeG by Spicewalla@mastodon.social
2023-09-16T18:53:03Z
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@brewsterkahle "maddening crowd""wisdom of the crowd"
(DIR) Post #AZpkf8eQSMBkWKeqDA by drahardja@sfba.social
2023-09-16T18:56:41Z
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@brewsterkahle Don’t forget…
(DIR) Post #AZpkvrYbGShCQYuKbQ by lalitpatnaik@mastodon.cloud
2023-09-16T19:01:57Z
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@brewsterkahle Another expression on the same line is 'hive mind'.
(DIR) Post #AZplUdRjigGMncHIES by hackerfactor@noc.social
2023-09-16T19:07:44Z
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@brewsterkahle All of these optional wordings remind me of groups and collaborations:"Meetings: None of us is as dumb as all of us."https://despair.com/collections/posters/products/meetings?variant=2457301507
(DIR) Post #AZptkl99enskwpmnYG by Smrki@mastodon.nz
2023-09-16T20:40:24Z
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@brewsterkahle For bees it is actually the same thing. Group thinks and creates collective intelligence.
(DIR) Post #AZqJSRC3hYBoez4J4C by Delib@mastodon.social
2023-09-17T01:28:18Z
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@brewsterkahle 'Divide and conquer' is a ubiquitus meme in Western intellectual-history; Prize individualism and suspect collectivism. So terms for 'working together' might be praise or condemnation. #culture, #propaganda, #norms
(DIR) Post #AZrFM5fgbNxRVwbX2e by skome@fosstodon.org
2023-09-17T12:16:57Z
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@brewsterkahleI don't think so. Group think is a psychological syndrome typified by a relatively small group lazily following a (usually) dominant voice. Collective Intelligence usually refers to a shared perception.Totally my lay opinion, but I can _create_ group think in, say, classrooms.