Post AZXPM032wwZAhIakF6 by hpk@chaos.social
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 (DIR) Post #AZXPLuSLjxF1M2Nrqi by hpk@chaos.social
       2023-09-07T10:30:31Z
       
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       Sorry but i am afraid there is nothing to party about regarding UK's #OnlineSafeyBill #e2ee The UK "not applying" the powers they ask to get is maybe worse compared to pushing through directly. Why? Pushing through now would likely mean WA/Signal/iMessage pulling out of UK with a big public backlash. And then the equivalent EU "ChatControl" bill would have a hard time to pass. But now the UK can wait and sync with the EU, possibly the US, and then the threat of pulling out of UK is muted.
       
 (DIR) Post #AZXPLvRK5G0wP8uYt6 by hpk@chaos.social
       2023-09-07T10:36:10Z
       
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       Basically the big problem of US, EU, UK legislation trying to kill #e2ee encryption has always been **synchornization**: if just one of these power blocks illegalizes #e2ee then there would be an exodus of tech companies. It's an innovation to rather legislate all the legal instruments for banning e2ee but say "we won't use them until needed and possible".  Watch out for the EU and the US trying to modify their ongoing e2ee banning legislation similarly.  I hope i am wrong about this.
       
 (DIR) Post #AZXPM032wwZAhIakF6 by hpk@chaos.social
       2023-09-07T10:55:02Z
       
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       The currently relevant argument against government moves to ban #e2ee would be to discuss what can be done to actually protect children **offline** (aka on the body/direct experience level) because that is what counts in the end. Unfortunately, the discourse is framed in terms of technology and technical feasibility instead of actually discussing what helps children in the real world: more social work and more financial support, more trained personell for schools etc.