Post AYw3cIRp9OFoxcYNmK by steeph@todon.eu
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(DIR) Post #AYvykLAqOnytxfcyga by mjg59@nondeterministic.computer
2023-08-20T21:11:05Z
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When someone asks a question here and you know the answer, click through to view their post on their instance rather than on yours just to make sure there aren't already 3000 identical answers that haven't made their way to your instance
(DIR) Post #AYvytR6Pj5YYxFtP5E by mjg59@nondeterministic.computer
2023-08-20T21:11:26Z
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This is the most infuriating thing about the entire fediverse experience
(DIR) Post #AYvz42lEZHaQe72mQK by promovicz@chaos.social
2023-08-20T21:14:14Z
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@mjg59 GlitchSoc has a popup dialog that warns about boosting without image descriptions. I'd gladly use the equivalent:"This post has more than 50 replies. Do you still want to post?"
(DIR) Post #AYvzYSKW4EqKdP34ca by cmsj@mastodon.tenshu.net
2023-08-20T21:20:28Z
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@mjg59 Lack of quote-toots is giving it a run for its money though.
(DIR) Post #AYvzjrsJQoxp2xIXxI by jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net
2023-08-20T21:20:17Z
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@mjg59 It’s a weird, non-intuitive experience for sure. While posts get spread rather fast, replies and context are delayed. Real-time expectations, coming from centralised services, meets the reality of high-latency, never-final networks. And it can’t be really fixed, IMHO. Only tweaked.
(DIR) Post #AYvzupYIPMzr1nAAAC by robryk@qoto.org
2023-08-20T21:22:03Z
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@mjg59 Unless you (or someone else on your instance) actually follow that person, in which case replies should have been forwarded; or am I wrong?
(DIR) Post #AYw06cRUyWuHqObYYa by petes_bread_eqn_xls@mastodo.neoliber.al
2023-08-20T21:18:11Z
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@promovicz @mjg59 If it knows there are more than 50 replies, can’t it just show them?
(DIR) Post #AYw06d8kNjVA0Wq5y4 by promovicz@chaos.social
2023-08-20T21:19:31Z
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@petes_bread_eqn_xls @mjg59 This would be displayed when you click "reply". Nothing would change for viewing - it would only step in when you dog-pile accidentally. The instance sync slowness just has to go IMO.
(DIR) Post #AYw06dl25O7tvGkfdw by mjg59@nondeterministic.computer
2023-08-20T21:25:04Z
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@promovicz @petes_bread_eqn_xls That still requires your local instance know that there's 50 replies to the original
(DIR) Post #AYw0G7HxewFe7Nfkxs by mjg59@nondeterministic.computer
2023-08-20T21:25:28Z
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@robryk eg, someone reposts someone asking for help
(DIR) Post #AYw0RZ2Eq5XnMDmE1w by promovicz@chaos.social
2023-08-20T21:29:56Z
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@mjg59 @petes_bread_eqn_xls Yes. In my mind that's a protocol issue caused by handling posts one-by-one rather than by feed. Hash chain versioning (like Git) might help?
(DIR) Post #AYw0bhor2DZxUrLuzo by robryk@qoto.org
2023-08-20T21:30:11Z
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@mjg59 Ah, I see. Indeed this is how one often sees posts from people one does not follow.(One of my gripes with how APub is used by all(?) Fedi software is that they try to make it impossible to interact with the boost itself, and try to redirect all such interaction to the boosted message.)
(DIR) Post #AYw3cIRp9OFoxcYNmK by steeph@todon.eu
2023-08-20T22:06:08Z
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@mjg59 Unfortunately, the web UI as well as the most popular mobile apps have a buttin specifically for writing a reply without displaying the answers first. Until about 10 years ago, no platform had such a button. For some reason most platforms that started out since then have such a button. But most non-commercial platforms havent changed their UI to include such a button.Imagine a web forum where the forum view that lists the recently updated threads had a link per thread that opens a text box to append a reply to the replies that you haven't read. It makes not much sense to me. But UI designers seem to disagree.
(DIR) Post #AYw9zacWLp2Fhu2z0y by TimStarling@wikis.world
2023-08-20T23:17:21Z
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@mjg59 ClearlyClaire says "Not having all the replies can be an issue indeed, but in practice I have not found that to be so much of one. But maybe it is because I know how it works and will occasionally check for replies upstream instead." https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/14017#issuecomment-642204517I find it to be a significant issue.
(DIR) Post #AYwB7EsRAxRmXghfJQ by marius@kiessling.social
2023-08-20T23:28:40Z
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@mjg59 I also don’t quite get why I have to view a profile my instance has never seen before on its original instance. Why doesn’t my instance ‚just‘ pull the information as needed? Especially when I dive into replies, I sometimes like to look at profiles so see if they also have something else interesting to say.
(DIR) Post #AYwKbj5mIfSeWnYVdI by DVHenkelWallace@mstdn.social
2023-08-21T01:16:39Z
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@mjg59 I can’t even tell how to do this in the UI of either tool I use.
(DIR) Post #AYwLpE9sCz6ab2TNOy by ian@hachyderm.io
2023-08-20T21:59:33Z
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@Br3nda @mjg59 it's arguably more exhausting to read 50 identical replies
(DIR) Post #AYwLpEzz5EmzCeqzcu by achadwick@urbanists.social
2023-08-21T01:27:46Z
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@ian @Br3nda maybe let's normalize editing top posts with "Edit: this has been answered, <link>" words. Updated toots should mostly federate out to places they fedded out to before. I've seen that style in use out there( @mjg59 has probably seen / thought of this already, sorry for noise)
(DIR) Post #AYwLpGGKNxSN7dVYjw by mjg59@nondeterministic.computer
2023-08-21T01:30:06Z
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@achadwick @ian @Br3nda let's normalise not working around broken shit
(DIR) Post #AYwNdmJNbKumxEaV0a by achadwick@urbanists.social
2023-08-21T01:50:26Z
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@mjg59 guess I'll just sit here waiting patiently for mastodon boy, the lone inventor of john website, to fix it it for all the multiverses because that's definitely happening soon right? (Sarcasm aside, I hope ActivityPub covers it, or will soon. I should track these things)Even with a 100% good technical fix, announcements via edit are a valid technique socially.
(DIR) Post #AYwP99Z9IAFe0XUKno by mjg59@nondeterministic.computer
2023-08-21T02:07:49Z
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@achadwick announcements by edit work if you're observing replies in realtime
(DIR) Post #AYwsE0Ha8F8XKnw7SS by GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social
2023-08-21T07:32:39Z
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@mjg59 the client I use auto retrieved them thankfully
(DIR) Post #AYwz5pWewPD3Kr2Rpw by jeroen@secluded.ch
2023-08-21T08:49:25Z
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@mjg59 having an instance with relays help... a wee bit; but yes, it is not instant.Good idea to only read things after a while and not instant, it is not IM anyway ;)
(DIR) Post #AYx0GsizUJ7sOcdkLA by dolmen@mamot.fr
2023-08-21T09:03:25Z
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@mjg59 This is a feature that non-web clients (ex: mobile apps) should optionally provide.
(DIR) Post #AYxWfibxQJk4npElyS by grumpybozo@toad.social
2023-08-21T15:06:20Z
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@mjg59 And crawl the answers missing from your own instance to find people you may want to follow to get more good toots flooded around the #fediverse.