Post AYFJQsAeGsBfp3Kosq by sammi@libranet.de
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 (DIR) Post #AYE1Ht4VYkJTg44J0K by sammi@libranet.de
       2023-07-29T02:33:15Z
       
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       @walruslifestyle @neurovagrant#XMPP #OMEMO #signalI tried using cheogram as my client for xmpp. I don't really know what I'm doing. the e2ee is not enabled by default. why can't the clients just build in and enable e2ee by default. I don't understand. because there is so much choice, its fragmented and confusing. I remember getting a DVD player from Costco, the DVD player had so many features, I literally didn't know how to use it. I returned it and got a DVD player with half the features and was able to use it. the first player was way better because of the advanced features but was unsuitable for a layman like me. same with the xmpp space, maybe better, but yet too complicated for the layman to use. too many choices, too fragmented, too confusing. need to dumb it down, make it easier onboarding experience, then maybe there is traction.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYE1HuADV0TR43kNXc by nicoco@pouet.pas.la
       2023-07-30T16:14:34Z
       
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       @sammi @walruslifestyle @neurovagrant Cheogram is notably a client targeted at a people looking to use bridges, with which E2EE usually isn't possible (think SMS, or IRC), explaining the default. Quicksy definitely is the simplest onboarding experience, with Conversations a close second on Android.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYFJQsAeGsBfp3Kosq by sammi@libranet.de
       2023-07-30T17:05:55Z
       
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       @nicoco @walruslifestyle @neurovagrantThanks for the info. Is that a hidden secret, as I haven't heard or seen much about Quicksy from the xmpp community or on the fediverse for that matter. I will look into that. cheers.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYFJQt8Yg86qorMfGS by nicoco@pouet.pas.la
       2023-07-31T07:12:35Z
       
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       @sammi @walruslifestyle @neurovagrant I think not everyone, especially not the tech-savvy folks, want to use Quicksy, because of the "your phone number is your username"-approach which I, for one, absolutely do not want. But let's face it, non-techies are used to that and actually expect it. In the end, it's federated XMPP-IM on a server run by trustworthy people, so I don't mind pointing to it.