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(DIR) Post #AY1ZYxT3vsFSANBLou by anders@thoresson.social
2023-07-24T16:07:21Z
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Does anyone have an url for a video, blogpost, etc with a #Zettelkasten setup in #Obsidian that doesn’t breakdown when you have 1k or more #atomicnotes? Preferably with #Readwise as a central part?Most tutorials starts with an empty vault and never go beyond like 10 notes or so. @TfTHacker, @AnthonyBaker , and @markmcelroy are people who I think might have something up their sleeve.#pkm #TFT
(DIR) Post #AY1agdato1Nwng4bnk by anders@thoresson.social
2023-07-24T16:19:57Z
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My main problem is that finding and linking related notes takes so much effort that I don’t do it. Much, much less friction in Tana.
(DIR) Post #AY1bOBPvvauG9XhyYy by carl@heath.social
2023-07-24T16:27:47Z
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@anders im using the LYT MOC system in combination with links, and lately also experimenting with local AI search. When I can run AInsuch as Claude or Llama2 locally, I think that will be a very powerful means for me to identify connections.
(DIR) Post #AY1cKOosFyGGW08Lzc by anders@thoresson.social
2023-07-24T16:38:20Z
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@carl The MOC system works fine for what I think of as my "cluster notes", where I build on annotations and though fragments to flesh out more complete ideas. Where it doesn't work for me is for the atomic notes, often just a highlight and the thought I had when I made the highlight. Ideally, the atomic notes would go into separate files:1. Highlight as blockquote and my thought as normal text. 2. Source, author, and other metadata in YAML.3. A summary used for file name.
(DIR) Post #AY1cWPKqAJu3aaoO6y by anders@thoresson.social
2023-07-24T16:40:32Z
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@carl There is nothing stopping me doing so, technically. But discoverability isn't what I need when I want to find those notes later on. And here I find a MOC becoming to cluttered to be useful. I need more powerful search. Perhaps this is where I could benefit from a local LLM.
(DIR) Post #AY1dXec6wgVXDc32u0 by carl@heath.social
2023-07-24T16:51:55Z
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@anders thats my experience at least. Connecting the dots i dont see myself immediately.
(DIR) Post #AY1diwEZm1br3KQ8P2 by anders@thoresson.social
2023-07-24T16:53:53Z
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What are the best options for interacting with the notes in my #Obsidian vault using a locally hosted LLM?#tft #pkm
(DIR) Post #AY1dlmpXC3kUkv48Rc by anders@thoresson.social
2023-07-24T16:54:30Z
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@carl Hmm. Got to explore what can be done here!
(DIR) Post #AY1emlGSbGyY8xglQO by carl@heath.social
2023-07-24T17:05:50Z
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@anders As it is now I would say the plugin Smart Connections is your primary option. Problem is it does not use local LLM but OpenAI API. Therefore it becomes tricky if you do not want to compromize your vault. I hope someone will develop a plugin for #Obsidian that enables for local #AI and #LLM in some fashion, similar to that of Smart Connections.
(DIR) Post #AY1vJrLya5Fbqp4ao4 by dropcase@pkm.social
2023-07-24T19:27:48Z
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@carl @anders I saw this article from How-To Geek (https://www.howtogeek.com/904141/googles-notebooklm-is-a-game-changer-for-notetaking/) the other day and signed up for the waitlist (https://notebooklm.google.com/signup)Hopefully it'll be what we're looking for - I don't need it to know everything, just help me connect more dots in my own #PKM
(DIR) Post #AY1vJsKawhjwspR0IC by sigsegv@hachyderm.io
2023-07-24T20:00:08Z
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@dropcase @carl @anders Even if it is what you’re looking for, given Google track record of cancelling things, it’s a risky proposition to depend on it having staying power. Not saying you shouldn’t check it out. Just go in eyes open to the possible future.
(DIR) Post #AY1vJt8vvY0ROwzCkq by anders@thoresson.social
2023-07-24T20:11:07Z
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@sigsegv @dropcase @carl Yes, agree. Definitely worth to take for a spin though!
(DIR) Post #AY1xiqQzKqiw9FSWXI by markmcelroy@pkm.social
2023-07-24T20:38:02Z
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@anders @TfTHacker @AnthonyBaker My vault-du-jour has only 2000 notes in it after this year’s pruning. I’ve had vaults with up to 5,000 that felt spry.Re: discoverability - I don’t have a video on that (but maybe should!). Currently, system working for me entails making sure all new notes have at least three connections (via tagging or linking), regularly revisiting and fleshing out random notes to rediscover old material, and the Strange New Worlds plugin.
(DIR) Post #AY202FykmjbqmedX2u by anders@thoresson.social
2023-07-24T21:03:58Z
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@markmcelroy @TfTHacker @AnthonyBaker Would love a video on that! And will check out Strange New Worlds!
(DIR) Post #AY207UaXtWM3XgoHw0 by anders@thoresson.social
2023-07-24T21:04:57Z
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@markmcelroy @TfTHacker @AnthonyBaker How small/atomic notes are you working with? One thought, one note?
(DIR) Post #AY21RgAscxmLDnzkQq by markmcelroy@pkm.social
2023-07-24T21:19:40Z
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@anders @TfTHacker @AnthonyBaker It varies. I prefer atomic notes. Half of my notes represent one thought, but someone of these also include links, associations, etc. I have note types for Sources (like bibliography entries, with a summary and reading notes, which might later be atomized), Dreams (dream journal), Journals (Daily Notes), and Documents (things I’m writing). All of these are whatever the opposite of atomic is, but might spawn atomic notes later.
(DIR) Post #AY221EupS86z6YRZ2m by anders@thoresson.social
2023-07-24T21:26:10Z
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@m @carl Oh! When I was moving my notes into Obsidian, I actually did so from a folder which was indexed by DT (and some other tools as well). For a while I used Obsidian and DT in parallel, but haven’t for a year or so. But obviously I have to explore this option again! DT’s ability to find connections between notes are great!
(DIR) Post #AY22PC6tXD7lM0VfWK by anders@thoresson.social
2023-07-24T21:30:33Z
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@m This plugin? Or is there a newer one? https://github.com/ryanjamurphy/DEVONlink-obsidian@carl
(DIR) Post #AY2ka1AMxbFea36eYa by joonhyeok_ahn@pkm.social
2023-07-24T21:38:31Z
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@dropcase @carl @anders Interesting to see. Still, I feel like I understand any notes better by connecting notes manually.
(DIR) Post #AY2ka25RXOuBR3oEW8 by anders@thoresson.social
2023-07-25T05:45:27Z
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@joonhyeok_ahn @dropcase @carl I feel the same. But I also think those tools can be useful to surface notes worth connecting.
(DIR) Post #AY7TLvGJO7gcmhNX04 by spinningthoughts@pkm.social
2023-07-27T12:25:57Z
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@anders The system I have developed for that in Obsidian is 1.) I pre-tag articles and specific highlights in Readwise according to keywords/short concepts not found vertabim in the text 2.) Readwise imports to Obsidian are set up to link to my daily note - so I can use my daily notes backlinks to traverse. The Supercharged links plugin helps with discrimination because it colors pretty much every link instance, so I can pick out articles by color3.) Readwise tags are-
(DIR) Post #AY7VmYWAG6RByHcYmu by anders@thoresson.social
2023-07-27T12:53:08Z
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@spinningthoughts Oh, nice! Got any screenshots to share?Also, have you a workflow to easily extract a text selection into another note, preferably where you also can select a template with metadata pre-filled depending on what kind of content it is you are extracting? Seems like Quick Add would be a good fit for this.
(DIR) Post #AY7WYL15l793zws5Ds by spinningthoughts@pkm.social
2023-07-27T13:01:39Z
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@anders @spinningthoughts My workflow so far has been to just fire off a Zettelkasten note (so it comes with a timestamp prefix) then use the quoted link syntax ( ![[]] ) to reference - assuming I don‘t immidiately extract an evergreen note, which happens sometimes. But yes QuickAdd syntax is the best for that. I also still have the "note refactor" plugin flying around in my installs but compared to QuickAdd it‘s… pretty inferior, tbqh, nowadays.
(DIR) Post #AY7WoKE8SjPiBNazdg by spinningthoughts@pkm.social
2023-07-27T13:04:47Z
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@anders @spinningthoughts also one more unmentiomed hack - I have the UI enabled so that linked mentions appear at the bottom of the note, and Obsidian gives us a few sorting options. "Sort new to old created" or "sort new to old modified" works pretty reliably at getting the "fresh catch" of a seed note. For anything more advanced, you might use Dataview, but so far I haven‘t needed any such advanced tools.
(DIR) Post #AY7XWkirJWMt6B9PsW by spinningthoughts@pkm.social
2023-07-27T13:12:38Z
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@anders As for screenshots, I will have to see. Not anything I can pull up easily on the off-cuff... my daily notes are full of sensitive stuff, and given recent issues around these I am not just going to paint over a sceensnap. Hope that is understandable. I will take this as a feedback point to maybe write a system article about it.
(DIR) Post #AY7XhIrJFbitrm8Oqe by spinningthoughts@pkm.social
2023-07-27T13:14:44Z
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@anders Incidentally, out of curiosity - what mechanic makes this lower-friction for you in Tana? The stronger discoverability of nodes by day? The easier time creating queries that pull up specifically tagged tiny bits of text? Or something else?
(DIR) Post #AY7YhqIf18FNXJkUF6 by anders@thoresson.social
2023-07-27T13:26:01Z
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@spinningthoughts I think it might be so simple as I had to build from scratch there. With the learnings I’ve made in Tana, I have now a new idea on how to build a vault in Obsidian. :)
(DIR) Post #AY7YrjFg4p5wZa4GCO by spinningthoughts@pkm.social
2023-07-27T13:27:48Z
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@anders @spinningthoughts Clean slates are nice… and terrifying. But yeah, I find the same. Now that I manage "the tiny loops" in Tana, I find a bunch of stuff to click better in Obsidian. And a variety of those issues I could probably now do with QuickAdd, tags and Dataview in Obsidian too! (But would the iterations be so fast… probably not.)