Post AXwqoyrR6vyXaLL1Ae by fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk
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(DIR) Post #AXwCna8LZ3J6RH1fiC by jeff@federated.fun
2023-07-22T01:58:42.084472Z
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@lina how many time do i have to say "stop using web tech" before people understand that they need to stop using web tech
(DIR) Post #AXwCpeb9w4PSrhUUOO by lina@eientei.org
2023-07-22T01:59:01.195841Z
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@jeff @lina don't fucking scare me like that i almost thought you were talking to me
(DIR) Post #AXwDKb86siPR5Jet2O by jeff@federated.fun
2023-07-22T02:04:41.899916Z
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@lina @lina ok
(DIR) Post #AXwDOEH5nYHlMKajmC by lina@eientei.org
2023-07-22T02:05:13.999050Z
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@jeff @lina thanks for understanding
(DIR) Post #AXwDlvXt5HZeDokOP2 by tk@bbs.kawa-kun.com
2023-07-22T02:09:21.560253Z
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@lina @freeplay It's almost like that's what they're trying to do. :blobfoxangry:
(DIR) Post #AXwJFSBlIR0ldDIT1k by jeff@federated.fun
2023-07-22T03:10:57.757471Z
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@lina @lina yw
(DIR) Post #AXwJKLOJzq5xzuVHAe by lina@eientei.org
2023-07-22T03:11:52.134162Z
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@jeff @lina :ryukoD:
(DIR) Post #AXwLRfEwnUQlUcjkx6 by gudenau@fosstodon.org
2023-07-22T02:06:28Z
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@lina Is this victim blaming? It's claiming that users abuse websites but it's users coping with the abuse of websites...Also on my rooted phone with Xposed modules I pass SafteyNet...Edit: The DRM crap was bad enough....
(DIR) Post #AXwLRhFjJYFFjd7PRw by gudenau@fosstodon.org
2023-07-22T02:12:46Z
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@lina I was going to open an issue with some decent talking points about this being awful but they don't want feedback.
(DIR) Post #AXwMhpsX6xVJ4iWnRo by a1ba@suya.place
2023-07-22T03:49:46.821662Z
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@lina >An owner of this repository has limited the ability to open an issue to users that have contributed to this repository in the past.
(DIR) Post #AXwYeIAFCdOx5ptAgK by collappsar@fediverse-lite.com
2023-07-22T06:03:31.477369Z
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@lina Total Google Death
(DIR) Post #AXwZbJ6XLnY95vINOq by sarvo@novoa.nagoya
2023-07-22T06:14:16.870Z
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@a1ba@suya.place @lina@vt.social Google moment
(DIR) Post #AXwZdx7bXRqjmj3Xpg by gurubob@mastodon.nz
2023-07-22T03:58:41Z
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@lina "Detect non-human traffic in advertising to improve user experience and access to web content" - there's the motivation, Google are their advertisers are losing HUGE amounts of money due to this, see https://malicious.life/episode/episode-216/ and https://malicious.life/episode/episode-217/
(DIR) Post #AXwZdy8LmA2YvKPedM by sarvo@novoa.nagoya
2023-07-22T06:14:43.025Z
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@gurubob@mastodon.nz @lina@vt.social oh no the poor multibillion panopticon is losing money!!
(DIR) Post #AXwcDmVIgzYhBhLsyu by disabled@shota.house
2023-07-22T06:43:37.076880Z
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@lawlznet @lina I was thinking something similar to this. I had a few ideas as to how this could work, actually.Here are a few of my theories.The internet kinda splits up, alternative web browsers are made to disable this feature, and only websites with this stupid tech turned off are accessible. This would be small self-hosted sites, sites that care about privacy, and I’d assume most E-commerce platforms or anything that has a paid for product which is how it monetizes itself.This leads into my other theory as to why I feel this will not be implemented at scale. Let’s assume for a minute you own a huge e-commerce platform, whether this be an actual storefront Amazon or a subscription service such as Netflix. I sit here, and I think about the general population, especially older people. These individuals would rather not upgrade their hardware and barely know how to use the computer for browsing, shopping, and email checking. These are people who use Netflix, Amazon and similar. Now, let’s say we just flipped this switch. This isn’t a “switch to chrome because we don’t like Firefox users, lol. :P” message, this is a “go out and buy this specific type of hardware to access this website that you spend good money on.” That’s not going to go by well, especially for some individuals who don’t know what hardware to buy, can’t afford it, or barely want to use the internet as is. I genuinely do not see companies, especially ones who make money by actual purchases/subscriptions, wanting to actively exclude this section of their audience. An audience who frequently has a just works mentality. An audience where, if something doesn’t work with their computers or phones, just drops it and goes and does something different for the day in hopes it will work tomorrow.I think this would actually be who these companies would be negatively effecting the most. Tech-savvy privacy-minded people are likely to just go without these websites or find smart ways around it via compartmentalization or other methods if they, absolutely must use them. But would probably be fine with the smaller sites which did not have this sort of hardware authentication enabled. I honestly don’t see this as a huge issue for those who are tech literate. It’s those who are most likely to be using FAGMAN services, those most likely to prefer the “convenience” and those most likely to go “well my friends use it” or “it just works” who will be negatively impacted.That’s my thoughts on this, what I think would happen if it did get implemented on a mass scale and why I do not think it will, or if it does don’t think it will last.
(DIR) Post #AXweiL0p9gEOoFnMQq by a1ba@suya.place
2023-07-22T07:11:31.789434Z
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@sarvo @lina I just said it sucks
(DIR) Post #AXwqoyrR6vyXaLL1Ae by fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk
2023-07-22T08:51:06Z
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@lina On the plus side: if this is implemented and millions of users find they can't access certain web sites, what will happen? I imagine a lot of them will switch to Firefox.
(DIR) Post #AXwqozV8jJjbZTuj3Y by Haijo7@snac.haijo.eu
2023-07-22T09:26:35Z
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Problem is, Google has a monopoly. Most people are using Chrome on Windows and won't even notice this unless they use an adblocker (or a tracker blocker, or anything alike).The people that use an adblocker just wouldn't be able to access the websites that are blocking adblockers, installing Firefox won't help them unless Firefox also implements the DRM.Google is trying to pull a Microsoft here (embrace, extend, extinguish)CC: @lina@vt.social
(DIR) Post #AXxIzhDBrqxskWPYKe by tech10@mastodon.social
2023-07-22T11:02:25Z
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@lina can't wait for internet 2: the hopefully better one!Ok, but seriously, i recently switched to Linux Mint, because Windows was slow, i will NOT switch back to using Chrome and Windows just because some crackheads decided it would be funny to lockdown websites. I prefer looking at a basic html using Netscape than put up with this nonsense.
(DIR) Post #AXxIziCAD9jnncwFN2 by didek@101010.pl
2023-07-22T14:42:53Z
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@tech10 @lina GNUNet + some new user-owned easy to modify browser.
(DIR) Post #AXxJ1MNMJ3Ichsxcyu by didek@101010.pl
2023-07-22T14:43:12Z
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@tech10 @lina Maybe GNUNet + some new user-owned easy to modify browser?Very far ahead vision.
(DIR) Post #AXxJ303MGvuK3OO5y4 by didek@101010.pl
2023-07-22T14:43:30Z
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@tech10 @lina Maybe GNUNet + some new user-owned easy to modify browser?I hope for this direction.
(DIR) Post #AXxLbpdJCoZzmPwLbs by tech10@mastodon.social
2023-07-22T15:12:11Z
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@didek @lina I have never heard of GnuNet before, i looked it up, i think i'll try it. Thanks to have brought it up!
(DIR) Post #AXxLhxjU0LJ8dbkdzU by didek@101010.pl
2023-07-22T15:13:19Z
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@tech10 @lina You can try, but it's so much work in progress that there is no sense in installing now unless wanting to develop 🫣.Still want to show it as a concept that we can do things differently.
(DIR) Post #AXxrUYLoG8o4gbKP0i by niclas@angrytoday.com
2023-07-22T21:09:26Z
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@lina They have to do it! Don't you care about the children? Don't you care about the planet? The oceans will boil if they let the status quo continue.
(DIR) Post #AXxvnAUXahcy0UXmYi by hyde@lazybear.social
2023-07-22T21:57:36Z
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@lina it's the samo with banks that wont let you install their app if you dont use google, or even worst force you to move a smartphone to log to your accounts ...
(DIR) Post #AY2lTR9o1oPb7JGiiO by scooter@linuxrocks.online
2023-07-25T03:35:59Z
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@lina @BrodieOnLinux You seeing this? Look at the issue tracker lol
(DIR) Post #AY2lTSByBFjkKJHxj6 by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-07-25T05:55:24Z
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@scooter @lina I'm aware, I've planned it but still need to record my video