Post AXusBMF8ZHRs73jpQ0 by espen@eboks.social
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 (DIR) Post #AXusBMF8ZHRs73jpQ0 by espen@eboks.social
       2023-07-21T10:31:43Z
       
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       Uh, is this an onging thing that's going to be an issue for people? @drq ?
       
 (DIR) Post #AXusBNWBpMgQ4EixdY by drq@mastodon.ml
       2023-07-21T10:33:00Z
       
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       @espen Hm... I got no memo or e-mail about this.Can you link me to the details?
       
 (DIR) Post #AXusVwU9WvdWJ8Zpya by espen@eboks.social
       2023-07-21T10:36:44Z
       
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       @drq Not clear on any details unfortunately. Just noticed this on Lemmy. See if this link works for you: https://demotheque.com/post/3184I'll check around a bit more
       
 (DIR) Post #AXusoD2gi5sMs3ROy0 by drq@mastodon.ml
       2023-07-21T10:40:03Z
       
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       @espen Please do, because my domain is in fact pre-paid for 10 years of service.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXusz3QKoQ58Dzfm7c by Houl@md.ilyamikcoder.com
       2023-07-21T10:42:00Z
       
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       @drq @espen :blobfoxeyes:
       
 (DIR) Post #AXut25DkaTiofPENbk by drq@mastodon.ml
       2023-07-21T10:42:34Z
       
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       @Houl I'm in it for a long run.Go big or go home.@espen
       
 (DIR) Post #AXut66gl4VsQNTiYtM by Houl@md.ilyamikcoder.com
       2023-07-21T10:43:15Z
       
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       @drq :blobfoxdealwithitfingerguns:  @espen
       
 (DIR) Post #AXutIB5mWcLFVhB6kC by espen@eboks.social
       2023-07-21T10:45:27Z
       
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       @drq It seems the case is that domains which was previously managed by others are now reclaimed by the rightful owners and domains just deleted. It happened with Gabon (.ga) and it seems like .ml, .ga, .cf, .gq and .tk are also on the chopping block.But I guess it is up to the Mail goverment to decide what happens to existing domains.Fingers crossed 🤞
       
 (DIR) Post #AXutKjtC7bkS0hVnhQ by drq@mastodon.ml
       2023-07-21T10:45:55Z
       
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       @espen Crap.DNS is cursed.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXutYxSmS0gkABw9yq by drq@mastodon.ml
       2023-07-21T10:48:30Z
       
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       @espen Seriously, the Internet desperately needs a better system for domain names. We can't trust registrars with that. We just can't.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXutZdHYy6ffrZ0nKK by espen@eboks.social
       2023-07-21T10:48:37Z
       
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       @drq True. Although there should be a way to change the domain name of an instance. If I can inform the entire world that the instance is going getting deleted, surely it should be possible to inform about a name change as well.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXuuV6iiBwSZfY7HoO by drq@mastodon.ml
       2023-07-21T10:59:00Z
       
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       @espen This goes for IP addresses also, by the way, because in the end they're also dependent on one centralized organization, and as such are also on thin fucking ice.Fortunately, we have a lot more numbers than we have names, and networks like Yggdrasil may have a solution for IP addresses - just take basically any number at random and announce it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXuuptAvkKL5k3E0cC by th3rdsergeevich@mastodon.ml
       2023-07-21T11:00:05Z
       
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       @drq Big if true. Otherwise it would suck to lose a lifetime social project because some pentagonal shmucks did an oopsie.@Houl @espen
       
 (DIR) Post #AXuv1IhJCBKG5CoLjs by espen@eboks.social
       2023-07-21T11:04:49Z
       
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       @drq Yeah well, #IPv6 was supposed to fix adresses. The recommendation was that EVERY CUSTOMER was was assigned a /48 subnet, which should be enough for a household.The reason why few actually get that is a combination of stupidity, incompentence and greed.But don't get me started.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXuvJOF5JpQEUaEeWG by drq@mastodon.ml
       2023-07-21T11:08:06Z
       
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       @espen IPv6 alone still depends on one organization to regulate, much like IPv4. You don't have an address unless the special org gives it to you.True, it's a non-profit, and the rules of this org are generally lax - but that's what they are for now, who knows who takes it over in the future.The trick of Yggdrasil is that every individual client gets their IP address independently, just like that.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXuvl9zLuK1IOS7P4S by espen@eboks.social
       2023-07-21T11:13:05Z
       
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       @drq Don't get me wrong, I've played with Yggdrasil and plan to get it up and running again. But they are using a small and unused part of the ipv6 address space to work. But yeah, IPv6 was designed to be top-down hierarchical because it's efficient. But failed to consider that hierarchies doesn't work when the people on top are morons.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXuwEGXmc7Sz7e6NCC by drq@mastodon.ml
       2023-07-21T11:18:23Z
       
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       @espen > hierarchies doesn't work when the people on top are moronsThis goes into a little book of my favourite anarchist quotes :)> But they are using a small and unused part of the ipv6 address space to work.Yes, but IPv6 in itself is so fucking ginormous that a single /64 will suffice you for approximately four billion Internets. It's just wasteful for one person, IMO.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXuxJpyYPGuYPjqP0C by didek@101010.pl
       2023-07-21T11:30:36Z
       
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       @drq @espen - Federated apps should not be as tied to domain names as it is now- There should be a fallback alternative, that could be used not only by niche technical people
       
 (DIR) Post #AXuxw5TNElN3TvUzia by drq@mastodon.ml
       2023-07-21T11:37:30Z
       
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       @didek If the name system can't be relied upon, what's the use then?@espen
       
 (DIR) Post #AXuyN0u0L1Mb7pnKRU by espen@eboks.social
       2023-07-21T11:41:50Z
       
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       @drq That's true, but part of the reason why IPv6 is so extremely larger than IPv4 is the efficiency. We traded "address waste" for simplified routing. Instead of checking increasingly complicated lookup tables for where to send a packet, just look at the address prefix. /64 is the minimum because of SLAAC autoconfiguration. I love the fact that I can just tell my system to make itself an unique address and it does the rest automatically. But then you also need some space for a few subnets. My Wifi router refuses to do IPv6 unless it gets to manage a /64 prefix by itself, so I have delegated it one. But this only works because my ISP assign me a bigger than /64 prefix, if it didn't then my Wifi router would break.So yeah, if you look at the current addresses I "occupy" but does not use, it's wasteful. But the address space was designed so large that we don't have to care./Rant
       
 (DIR) Post #AXuzTvtNSontZHMfCq by drq@mastodon.ml
       2023-07-21T11:54:49Z
       
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       @espen Also, by the way, IPv6 with its enormous size is supposedly meant for interplanetary Internet of the future. Which is rightfully so, I love Vint's optimism.But guess what. IANA won't always be around to issue addresses. Hell, the Earth won't always be around. And it won't be efficient to phone Dr. Cerf's brain in a jar so he could give you a piece of address space when you're an ichtyoid from Kepler-452bSo some way to obtain addresses independently and universally at the same time is a must.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXv0QsYVVqqYIyi6cK by espen@eboks.social
       2023-07-21T12:05:27Z
       
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       @drq Agreed. In face perhaps we shouldn't care. The IP space is fine for transmitting information between computers in a logical and hierarchical way, because that's how we tend to organize ourselves. But the social construct online is dynamic and sometimes arbitrary. So perhaps it makes sense to use overlays on top as the "real" address space.My point (I think) is that there is a disconnect between the way networks, geography and businesses are laid out, and the "social construct" that represents the way we use this connectivity.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXv1sN746p0wqlY2jo by taxuswc@shitpost.poridge.club
       2023-07-21T12:03:46.057Z
       
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       @drq@mastodon.ml it also feels like freenom is falling apart due to inability to combat abuse of its domains (they were sued by farcebook this March), so it probably would be wise to migrate to another registar while it is still an option (lost my .ga domain some time ago)  @espen@eboks.social
       
 (DIR) Post #AXv1sNl7ht3ar0I2Ay by espen@eboks.social
       2023-07-21T12:09:14Z
       
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       @taxuswc Sorry to hear that. Is it just a particular registrar? I got the impression that Freenom was the main "caretakers" of the TLD so possibly all domans would be affected. But I'm happy to be wrong here.@drq
       
 (DIR) Post #AXv1sONPPXgKlkCbqq by taxuswc@shitpost.poridge.club
       2023-07-21T12:21:00.250Z
       
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       @espen@eboks.social in case of .ga, the Gabon govt just claimed it back from freenom due to freenom unreliability, it was still possible to buy the same domain back from gandi (and it turned out to be kinda expensive), but that thing was temporary anyway and I got a better domain for it later, so I just let it dissolve in the river of time.Have no idea what will happen to other freenom TLDs, but it feels like they would follow the same path soon.@drq@mastodon.ml
       
 (DIR) Post #AXv1sOzL8W1UfNwtyS by drq@mastodon.ml
       2023-07-21T12:21:36Z
       
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       @taxuswc Was your domain name free?@espen
       
 (DIR) Post #AXvBS6W0CCPhNxKEkq by taxuswc@shitpost.poridge.club
       2023-07-21T14:00:17.226Z
       
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       @drq@mastodon.ml yes. @espen@eboks.social
       
 (DIR) Post #AXvBS78dsXK1JnP5yy by drq@mastodon.ml
       2023-07-21T14:07:30Z
       
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       @taxuswc Well, then... it was never going to last long anyway.@espen