Post AXmKX9VMj1iDAhEjrs by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
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(DIR) Post #AXlulxm61RZwKJSpgu by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-07-17T02:49:19Z
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Slackware has now passed it's 30th birthday, I was under the assumption that Slackware was the oldest Linux distribution but that's not actually the case. It's the oldest still running distro but there's a few dead projects that predate it
(DIR) Post #AXlv8sY3cVgMmGpBaq by southernwolf@furry.engineer
2023-07-17T02:53:33Z
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@BrodieOnLinux Yeah, Slackware isn't the oldest one, but it is the oldest still in active use and development. According to this from Wikipedia, MCC Interm may be the oldest? Also, Yggdrasill is also apparently older than Slackware too, which is a bit surprising to me.
(DIR) Post #AXlvZiiYHKnS6gX3yK by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-07-17T02:58:23Z
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@0x0ddc0ffee Slackware was based on SLS so yes, Yggdrasil also was earlier than Slackware but it seems like the generally accepted first distro was MCC Interim
(DIR) Post #AXlxczaEEDphByKL2m by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
2023-07-17T03:21:36Z
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Slackware and Redhat were both founded in 1993, but prior to the two, Linux was strictly a do-it-yourself affair, I remember compiling .98 kernel, the X-server (I don't even remember what the original name was preceding Xfree-86, and the userland, originally cross-compiled on a computer running SunOS 4.1.x for an i386 machine. But Redhat has totally changed how things are done since that time, Slackware on the other hand is pretty much still a by-hand distro much like the original methods. It used to literally take days.
(DIR) Post #AXmG56tiQSkxA001AG by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-07-17T06:48:07Z
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@southernwolf You could maybe make the argument that's Linus Torvalds boot images were a distro but it's really stretching the definition, the early versions were just the kernel and had to be bootstrapped from a Minix/other unix system
(DIR) Post #AXmGlJwMK8qXm2Ma7E by southernwolf@furry.engineer
2023-07-17T06:55:46Z
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@BrodieOnLinux Yeah, I don't think you can call the kernel on its own (especially the early versions of it) a "distro" per se, though I'm fully aware that's how you start a flame war online with the "Kernel only vs GNU+Kernel" people. Perhaps the first real "Linux Distro" is whenever the GNU toolset got integrated with the kernel, thereby making what could be properly termed an operating system? How far back did that first happen, and was it Linus who did that or someone else? Is there a point before that even happened that could be classified as a distro?Actually might be curious to explore back and see just what could be truly called the "first Linux distro."
(DIR) Post #AXmIBPolC6C1UAodaS by 5uie1@fosstodon.org
2023-07-17T07:11:41Z
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@BrodieOnLinux lovely to see Slackware still going strong!
(DIR) Post #AXmKX9VMj1iDAhEjrs by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-07-17T07:38:03Z
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@5uie1 Strong isn't the word I would use but it's certainly still going
(DIR) Post #AXmKkgMrqwQwrIiIbY by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-07-17T07:40:29Z
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@southernwolf The first distro released publically like that was MCC from understanding
(DIR) Post #AXmKuILO1nNjFIbX2e by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-07-17T07:42:01Z
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@southernwolf The first distro released publically like that was MCC from understanding, do you count the private system Torvalds ran as a distro if it was never made public, personally I don't but at that point you're getting deep into the weeds.
(DIR) Post #AXmM09aPbM7tmAzR2W by southernwolf@furry.engineer
2023-07-17T07:54:29Z
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@BrodieOnLinux Yeah, agreed on that. Back then, the expectations for a computer were lower, so you could in theory call his private system (which was mostly just the kernel proper) a distro, but honestly I wouldn't do so. I think you need at least some other toolsets (GNU or not) to make it really become a true distro, and that's where MCC would hold the crown.
(DIR) Post #AXmxqyF4CrOAFD3Q9I by 5uie1@fosstodon.org
2023-07-17T14:58:07Z
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@BrodieOnLinux may I ask what you would categorise as strong? Or why do you think it isn’t going “strong”?
(DIR) Post #AXnGaciONF3fyWgo1A by scottytrees@mastodon.social
2023-07-17T18:27:36Z
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@BrodieOnLinux I’m older than Slackware, woo hoo!! Oh wait not like this! 😅