Post AXhAx7H7fQwUSAW7Hc by DazzaNZ@noagendasocial.com
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(DIR) Post #AXf30dbKkTgdd7DdAG by SmedleyButler@noagendasocial.com
2023-07-13T19:18:58Z
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Finally some good interviews with Johnny Vedmore where he elaborates on his article outing Maria Farmer as complicit in the Epstein's network's still-ongoing coverup.Lots of interesting stuff in an interview he just finished on AM Wakeup with Steve Poikenon: https://rokfin.com/stream/36659/Unraveling-Epstein-Threads-w-Johnny-VedmoreSubscribe to AM Wakeup on Rokfin. Steve Poikenon is completely canceled from every platform except Rokfin. It's free. And a good interview by Monica Perez:https://rokfin.com/stream/36625/The-Pottinger-Trilogy-with-Johnny-Vedmore
(DIR) Post #AXf4ZXdX15IFDkSDi4 by SmedleyButler@noagendasocial.com
2023-07-13T19:36:31Z
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I already thought everyone with any power in government was blackmailed by mafia/spooks or was complicit with mafia/spooks, and that's true, but they are EVERYWHERE and they get there EARLY. Pottinger and Bill Barr have their fingers in everything. Both of them are part of the Bush mafia, which is deeply tied to Epstein mafia through Iran-Contra era shit. Uncle Don is a huge part of Iran-Contra with well known Bush ties. I assume he was therefore a significant part of early Epstein network.👀
(DIR) Post #AXf5DucgyMrQ5yJOPA by SmedleyButler@noagendasocial.com
2023-07-13T19:43:48Z
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For example, David Boies is known as the best lawyer in the country for high profile constitutional law cases. He was Gore's attorney in Bush v. Gore, but he's a fixer for Bush. He was there to ensure W won the election. Gore was probably in on it too (he's part of Clinton mafia, which was spawned from Bush mafia and obviously connected to Epstein mafia).So in Bush v. Gore the two lawyers were Boies and Ted Olson, whose wife was the only source for the 9/11 box cutters story. 👀 👀 🙈
(DIR) Post #AXf5gblOAhrs073xRo by SmedleyButler@noagendasocial.com
2023-07-13T19:48:59Z
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Box cutters, you ask?The official 911 commission report says terrorists used box cutters to take over the planes. But everyone on the planes died, how do we know that? Sure they found a terrorist's passport on the ground outside WTC (yes, really), but they didn't find box cutters anywhere.The entire story comes from Ted Olson, who claims he received a CELL PHONE call from his wife Barbara, and she told him about the box cutters. A call that was physically impossible.
(DIR) Post #AXf5tf4VBOqm1fE93Y by Smeeagain@noagendasocial.com
2023-07-13T19:51:21Z
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@SmedleyButler why was the call physically impossible?
(DIR) Post #AXf5xKo4TBBGKjIF6G by Nazareno@noagendasocial.com
2023-07-13T19:52:01Z
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@SmedleyButler 👍
(DIR) Post #AXf6C5seFNWENtTJlg by progo@noagendasocial.com
2023-07-13T19:54:41Z
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@Smeeagain @SmedleyButler I've heard lots of stories about planes moving at high speed in an emergency, and successful mobile phone calls from them -- from that era.
(DIR) Post #AXf6IwOBvwgSyVUUng by SmedleyButler@noagendasocial.com
2023-07-13T19:55:55Z
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@Smeeagain Cell phones can't place calls from cruise altitude/speed because the signal strength is inversely proportional to distance squared, and the jet is travelling so fast that it would have to be constantly changing cell towers and they system wasn't designed to accommodate phones moving at 500 or 600mph. If you research the topic of cell phone calls from airlines at cruise altitude (don't put 911 in the query to avoid bias), you'll find out.
(DIR) Post #AXf6RM0qYAAolGaDsu by Smeeagain@noagendasocial.com
2023-07-13T19:57:26Z
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@SmedleyButler I guess you never saw an Airfonehttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airfone
(DIR) Post #AXf7FPwaCx6bQuSeBM by CaptainDaviator@noagendasocial.com
2023-07-13T20:06:29Z
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@SmedleyButler @Smeeagain they never reached cruise altitude, and they were over one of the most densely populated areas on the planet (hence lots of cell towers). A cell phone call would have and still is possible.
(DIR) Post #AXf89IF81iBjlXmN0q by progo@noagendasocial.com
2023-07-13T20:16:35Z
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@Smeeagain> Many of the in-flight calls made by victims of the September 11, 2001 attacks were made over Airfone and Air One. [cites 911 commission report]Either @SmedleyButler is mistaken, or the 911 commission invented Airfone as an fantasy to suit their story.
(DIR) Post #AXf8z8sy3vl5np8ZKC by Smeeagain@noagendasocial.com
2023-07-13T20:25:57Z
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@progo I'll just have to assume that you were never on a plane that had the Airphones in the back of the headrest'. They were rather common on planes and I remember wanting to call my friends on one when I was younger but my parents obviously didn't want to spend the money on something so frivilous
(DIR) Post #AXfANIN6XqOU7xJYJc by mhjohnson@noagendasocial.com
2023-07-13T20:41:31Z
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@progo ^^^ this is the answer. For a link, how about the book of knowledgehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communication_during_the_September_11_attacksI used an Airfare once when flying from ONT to DFW to GTW. The plane was delayed & I left a message for my point of contact in Gatwick that I would be late. The call quality was good.@Smeeagain @SmedleyButler
(DIR) Post #AXfBXLosgDpFfffJHk by progo@noagendasocial.com
2023-07-13T20:54:32Z
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@Smeeagain I remember Air one's presence. I also remember sometimes in the right conditions cell phone calls were successful from a fast moving plane. It may be much more likely to fail now with lower transmission power on 4g connections.
(DIR) Post #AXfBYUMeOeQmSg0Gdk by progo@noagendasocial.com
2023-07-13T20:54:45Z
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@Smeeagain I remember Air Fone's presence. I also remember sometimes in the right conditions cell phone calls were successful from a fast moving plane. It may be much more likely to fail now with lower transmission power on 4g connections.
(DIR) Post #AXh5fTWJiqsCShOPg0 by SmedleyButler@noagendasocial.com
2023-07-14T18:58:12Z
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@progo @Smeeagain We've all heard lots of stories. But is there any objective evidence that a two minute long cell phone call could be made from a commercial airliner at cruise altitude? Also, the phone company had no record of the alleged call.
(DIR) Post #AXh8qdkqJNmNFcCcQy by progo@noagendasocial.com
2023-07-14T19:33:50Z
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@SmedleyButler @Smeeagain so you're denying that Air Fone is a thing, now that we've established that's what they say is in the 911 commission report, and people were using it often in that era?
(DIR) Post #AXh95mySJdbcBknFWC by SmedleyButler@noagendasocial.com
2023-07-14T19:36:35Z
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@progo @Smeeagain AirFone is not a cell phone. It used different communication technology (satellite, I think).AirFone calls were the only calls successfully placed on 911 and there are phone company records of the calls.Ted Olson's testimony that his wife called him on her cell phone and told him about box cutters is the only evidence of that call occurring, and that call is the only evidence of box cutters.
(DIR) Post #AXh9UC94Ni5tCoOacS by progo@noagendasocial.com
2023-07-14T19:40:59Z
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@SmedleyButler @Smeeagain Okay.I think the memories and messages got muddled.On the point of "can we believe one faulty memory of a phone call to prove the weapon was box cutters?" -- I accept that we have to say no we can't accept this.
(DIR) Post #AXh9XSy6I2wGFZpCCm by progo@noagendasocial.com
2023-07-14T19:41:35Z
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@SmedleyButler @Smeeagain in other words we don't know for sure that this statement "it was box cutters" is accurate.
(DIR) Post #AXh9kRtfaKiAgwwWYq by SmedleyButler@noagendasocial.com
2023-07-14T19:43:56Z
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@progo @Smeeagain Physics of airborne radio communication using cellular phones, including experimental evidence. In an airplane flying much slower and much lower than a commercial jet, they couldn't complete calls even at low altitudeshttp://shadetreephysics.com/cell-air.htm
(DIR) Post #AXh9r4MDVFA3iDS6ym by progo@noagendasocial.com
2023-07-14T19:45:07Z
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@SmedleyButler @Smeeagain also, yes I didn't mean to think I thought "Air Fone works the same way as a cell phone" -- only that "they had access to a phone, if no one noticed they were using it".
(DIR) Post #AXh9uOWGzrbh73k3Fo by progo@noagendasocial.com
2023-07-14T19:45:44Z
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@SmedleyButler @Smeeagain also, yes I didn't mean to say I thought "Air Fone works the same way as a cell phone" -- only that "they had access to a phone, if no one noticed they were using it".
(DIR) Post #AXhAx7H7fQwUSAW7Hc by DazzaNZ@noagendasocial.com
2023-07-14T19:57:25Z
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@progo @SmedleyButler @Smeeagain For context: I flew LA to Chicago in 1999 or 2000 and I was surprised to see Airfone phones in the centre seat-back of every row of seats. On some airlines, everyone had a phone in reach at every seat. I had never seen phones in planes at home. To use the phone you swipe your credit card, put it in the phone? Something like that.The lady next to me used the phone to call her husband to say she was on the plane and expected to be home for dinner.
(DIR) Post #AXhB4G3HQy5nhWRoi8 by progo@noagendasocial.com
2023-07-14T19:58:43Z
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@DazzaNZ @SmedleyButler @Smeeagain I saw them on planes at the time, and I assumed whatever it might say it would cost -- I would get charged more. I never had motivation to use it.
(DIR) Post #AXhB7iZbqf6l1lDeoS by progo@noagendasocial.com
2023-07-14T19:59:20Z
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@DazzaNZ @SmedleyButler @Smeeagain also it's like bringing some strangers off the street into a phone booth to watch you make a call.
(DIR) Post #AXhBGtM97xQd4mIRKC by DazzaNZ@noagendasocial.com
2023-07-14T20:01:00Z
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@SmedleyButler @progo @Smeeagain In 3G phones for Europe, I heard that data rates on the phone were decreased on high speed trains, because the radio frequency pitch bends as the train moves toward or away from the cell tower. But also the faces of the cell sites project downward because most phones are on the ground, and they don't want the signal to spill over into other cells.
(DIR) Post #AXhBdpdh74OQCzRX6G by DazzaNZ@noagendasocial.com
2023-07-14T20:05:08Z
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@SmedleyButler @progo @Smeeagain I have used my iPhone to video call in a helicopter, just for fun. But probably not much higher than a couple hundred metres. And perhaps 160 - 220km/h.
(DIR) Post #AXhDG7JTwwqryvoBs0 by DazzaNZ@noagendasocial.com
2023-07-14T20:23:16Z
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@progo @SmedleyButler @Smeeagain Yeah, I have only seen the Airfone used one time, and I remember the person who used it and what her calls were about.She likes Diet Coke with a twist of lime, she is a business marketing person, and she let me have the window seat, so I could see the countryside. And her meeting went well. I think she probably got the project. I would want her company to do the project, she was kind, flexible and organised, answered questions and kept people updated.😅