Post AXfpGDQSdClssicw1A by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
(DIR) More posts by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
(DIR) Post #AXfn97Vk1ZTobMaNnc by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2023-07-14T03:55:51Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
"You cannot complain about Facebook collecting your life’s history, while at the same time complaining that diaspora* cannot find your former classmates. You cannot complain about WhatsApp collecting your address book, while at the same time stating you do not use eMail because exchanging addresses is too cumbersome. You either get a system that knows who you are or a system that does not."#DennisSchuberthttps://overengineer.dev/blog/2020/01/01/2010s-alternative-social-media.html#privacy #DataFarming #SurveillanceCapitalism
(DIR) Post #AXfnXF2Nh0tKtWM3jU by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2023-07-14T03:59:29Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
"I do not get the impression that the majority of users who complain about “bad privacy practices” have understood that point yet."Dennis Schuberthttps://overengineer.dev/blog/2020/01/01/2010s-alternative-social-media.htmlI disagree with Dennis on my many things, including the false dichotomies in the paragraph I quoted in the previous post. But I do agree that a lot of people who don't really understand digital tech, given the choice between software that respects their human rights and software with maximum convenience, pick the latter.
(DIR) Post #AXfnz6Ijld7zuMI0Ui by vik@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2023-07-14T04:04:58Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@strypey With *Diaspora I ended up with a system that didn't work, and the idea that I could export my profile turned out to be a pipe dream.
(DIR) Post #AXfpGDQSdClssicw1A by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2023-07-14T04:19:29Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
"I hope that we, as in “the entire internet”, eventually find our ways back into a place where we can argue with rational arguments instead of disliking someone’s opinion just because you so happen to dislike the person arguing."Dennis Schuberthttps://overengineer.dev/blog/2020/01/01/2010s-alternative-social-media.htmlI very much agree with this sentiment. But I reject Dennis' assertion that the critical responses to his NIH carping about ActivityPub were motivated by dislike for him personally, or for Diaspora as a project.(1/?)
(DIR) Post #AXfqlY9BjuUO4y3M24 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2023-07-14T04:36:27Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
People disagree with him because he misses the point with pretty much everything he says about ActivityPub, and the projects using it to be compatible with each other. Because he claims to care what non-geeks want from alternative social networks, but ignores the one thing they want most of all; more people to talk to. Because he offers no constructive alternatives to AP. Nor does Diaspora illustrate any better way forward, with its barely documented fork of the obsolete OStatus protocol.(2/?)
(DIR) Post #AXfr5ghNefNaOPeHaq by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2023-07-14T04:40:06Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
So for all those reasons, It's hard to read Dennis' takes on ActivityPub as anything other than NIH (Not Invented Here) syndrome. Methinks the developer doth protest too much.(3/3)
(DIR) Post #AXg76EKmCK6JygM9ya by hamishcampbell@mastodon.social
2023-07-14T07:39:11Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@strypey this is the #closedweb Vs #openweb debate, that has no debate as they talk past each other. An example of the #geekproblem
(DIR) Post #AXhJ8FGv4j4A4cEvD6 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2023-07-14T21:28:59Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@vik> With *Diaspora I ended up with a system that didn't workAe, for all Dennis's carping about AP and it's implementation, the UX of Diaspora is worse than pretty much all of them. It's devs do exactly what Dennis projects onto AP devs; designing a system that works for its devs and their fans, regardless of how useless it is to the general public. See my rant following that post.
(DIR) Post #AXhJGPUYxedU5SVxj6 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2023-07-14T21:30:29Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@hamishcampbell> this is the closedweb Vs openweb debateHow so?
(DIR) Post #AXml1LQpXlMzeqAmP2 by pavi@social.masto.host
2023-07-17T12:35:04Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@vik @strypey I remember asking for Diaspora profile import feature after we all exported our JD profiles. They said that it will be soon, later I was told not to repeatedly ask. I told that I will ask next year which I did and I was told that it was pointless and I should wait till next release which has no fixed timeline/date. I guess #Diaspora as the first famous project of #Fediverse has reached end of life. 😒
(DIR) Post #AXmptX5ioF5XH0OTi4 by volkris@qoto.org
2023-07-17T13:29:35Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@strypeyWell there ARE some clever applications of #cryptography that are underappreciated but that might help break some of those dichotomies.Just for one trivial example, letting a platform have a hashed* version of an address book would allow lookup against the book without them actually having the contact info.*and salted, but nevermind
(DIR) Post #AXnXgbe6xZiJcN7qvg by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2023-07-17T21:40:21Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@pavi> I guess Diaspora as the first famous project of Fediverse has reached end of lifeThat was a given once they refused to add AP, even after SocialHome demonstrated it was trivial for a package federated using Diaspora protocol to support both. Even more so when they dropped the XMPP chat support, which almost made Diaspora capable of becoming the FB giant-killer it originally set out to be. @vik
(DIR) Post #AXnXxhkTWWdbT4Fu0u by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2023-07-17T21:43:24Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@volkris> help break some of those dichotomiesI see I'm not the only one spotting Dennis' false binaries. I mentioned this in a follow-up post.> letting a platform have a hashed* version of an address book... is something @dansup is proposing to implement in PixelFed.
(DIR) Post #AXnY8rCMjIWlxfcQvA by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2023-07-17T21:45:28Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@paviFWIW dropping XMPP chat support is a classic example of Diaspora ignoring what people want from a social media UX, while claiming to care about it more than the devs of AP apps :/@vik
(DIR) Post #AXnYNz2BsVjQbk4YHw by maegul@hachyderm.io
2023-07-17T12:44:23Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@pavi @vik @strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz On the other hand, I followed this thread back to Dennis Schubert's *diaspora account (https://pod.geraspora.de/u/denschub) which is full of a bunch of ActivityPub hate ... and I'm kinda here for some fediverse critique.On their lemmy/kbin <-> Mastodon interop issues, they're on point: https://pod.geraspora.de/people/4ce5b01a9e3a1b18d700000a
(DIR) Post #AXnYNzj5J22ikm8o9A by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2023-07-17T21:48:10Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@maegul> I'm kinda here for some fediverse critiqueI'll all for critique that's constructive and useful. That gives credit where credit is due, and at least sketches out potential approaches to solutions, rather than only banging on about problems. I've never yet seen Dennis do either of these things in his posts about AP. @pavi @vik
(DIR) Post #AXnaIplJ7nl2JJqcXw by volkris@qoto.org
2023-07-17T22:09:39Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@strypeyWell, I’ve always thought far too few tech type people are familiar with some of the applications of cryptography, PKI and all of that.If more knew about it we’d have widespread use of pgp, web of trust, and many other techniques with very practical benefit.And of course I’m referring to technical people knowing about the crypto stuff. Much of it is legitimately technical, so I wouldn’t fault common users for not knowing about all of this magic inside their applications :)But yeah, someone who’s not familiar with it could be excused for seeing those dichotomies/binaries. Without such solutions, the problems are real.@dansup