Post AXX4MrIbzkCIrtCQRU by colo_lee@universeodon.com
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(DIR) Post #AXX4MpIBSMfOdyz3Uu by uspolitics@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-07-09T19:09:36Z
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In New York State, Socialists Have Won a Landmark Victory for Green Jobs and Clean Public Powerhttps://jacobin.com/2023/07/new-york-bpra-green-new-deal-public-renewable-energy#jacobin #socialism #epa #climatechange #climate #climatecrisis #climateaction #oil #tech #uspolitics #politics
(DIR) Post #AXX4MqAmBOKrNIWeae by barney@mas.to
2023-07-09T19:32:58Z
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@uspolitics This a load of utter and complete bullshit, published by #Jacobin, which is one of the most despicable of the Pro-Republican Leftist propaganda outlets. It appears that @uspolitics falls into the same category.BPRA's chief sponsor was Robert Carroll, from the 44th Assembly District. He *beat* the socialist candidate, Rob Curry-Smithson, in the Democratic primary.#socialism #epa #climatechange #climate #climatecrisis #climateaction #oil #tech #uspolitics #politics
(DIR) Post #AXX4MrIbzkCIrtCQRU by colo_lee@universeodon.com
2023-07-09T19:42:53Z
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@barney @uspolitics thank you for calling this out.These right wing in disguise sites and accounts rely on a continued supply of people who can be fooled by a progressive and socialist gloss.Grooming the naive and well meaning to become useful idiots.It's a pity cause it doesn't take much effort or attention to see what's going on ...
(DIR) Post #AXX4NaSQ67mUvL8OTg by TruthSandwich@qoto.org
2023-07-09T21:40:19Z
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@colo_lee @barney @uspoliticsIt’s not just this site, it’s the far left in general: they’re accelerationists who want the fascists to take over and wipe out the liberals.
(DIR) Post #AXX4SfLZLWT7XJLs24 by pell@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-07-09T19:52:19Z
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@barney @uspolitics can you explain the situation further to me? I don’t see how they are right wing in disguise.
(DIR) Post #AXX4SgIPojXYTosrku by barney@mas.to
2023-07-09T19:58:31Z
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@pell Jacobin's ostensible ideology is strongly left-wing, so I wouldn't say they are right-wing in disguise. They're leftists.Most of their propaganda is a steady stream of attacks that are designed to weaken, defeat, and destroy the Democratic Party. In almost every US election, the two possible outcomes are a Dem victory or a Republican victory. So, by working to achieve Democrats' defeats, they're working to achieve Republicans' victories.Hence, Pro-Republican Leftists.@uspolitics
(DIR) Post #AXX4SgvPTkjSQl80XI by pell@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-07-09T20:18:58Z
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@barney @uspolitics When people critique the Democratic Party, it doesn't automatically mean they're pro-Republican. It could just be they see room for improvement or they have different ideas.Your perspective stifles open discussion. People might be scared to voice their opinions if they're worried about being labeled as 'aiding the enemy.' This could really limit the scope of our political debates and make it hard for novel ideas to emerge.
(DIR) Post #AXX4ShXhBPMCLV2aDA by barney@mas.to
2023-07-09T20:27:28Z
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@pell "Critique the Democratic Party" is a straw man.Because enough NY residents voted for Democrats, NY just achieved a breakthrough in renewable energy legislation. But, if you read this article, you'll see Jacobin attempting to reassign the credit for that accomplishment.I'd encourage you to read some of Jacobin's other filth. They consistently work to thwart the progressive agenda that they ostensibly support. @uspolitics
(DIR) Post #AXX4Wn0Uo9isS5SejA by pell@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-07-09T20:48:07Z
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@barney @uspolitics I'm not distorting or oversimplifying your position (Strawman). Instead, I'm emphasizing the importance of diverse political discourse and the ability to critique any political party. You stated Jacobin is critical of the Dems, which is reflected in my comment.Jacobin is not a singular entity. It’s many writers that may not even agree with each other.Unless you have evidence they are pro-Republican counter intelligence I think your argument is weak.
(DIR) Post #AXX4WnZwgM4yE22xyy by barney@mas.to
2023-07-09T21:00:34Z
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@pell You are indeed inventing a straw man argument that I never proposed, i.e. that criticizing the Democratic Party is, per se, bad.This Jacobin article is garbage. It describes a legislative accomplishment, and credits that accomplishment to people other than those who achieved it.@uspolitics
(DIR) Post #AXX4WoFQC9FwIfS5dA by pell@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-07-09T21:24:07Z
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@barney @uspolitics you did suggest that very thing above ,but my Mastodon instance does not provide me with enough characters to quote you. You’ve now switched to talking about misappropriation of credit in this current article, which may be true I don’t know.
(DIR) Post #AXX4WsTOU8oFPA1Ixs by TruthSandwich@qoto.org
2023-07-09T21:44:30Z
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@pell @barney @uspoliticsThis isn’t genuine criticism, it’s an attempted takeover.
(DIR) Post #AXX4naSqh7wkTTjUwq by edgeoforever@mastodon.world
2023-07-09T23:01:15Z
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@uspolitics “socialists”? Where were the actual Democrats? Was there a battle in which they lost to the 🥀🥀? I an in NY and don’t recall. But then, re-writing history is a socialist thang.
(DIR) Post #AXX8g6yKLbZknN9CJk by glasspusher@wonkodon.com
2023-07-09T23:34:27Z
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@TruthSandwich @colo_lee @barney @uspolitics @thepoliticalcat @edwilk this is what the radical left is terrified of!
(DIR) Post #AXX8g7njGUgzMnCFRA by TruthSandwich@qoto.org
2023-07-09T23:35:05Z
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@glasspusher @colo_lee @barney @uspolitics @thepoliticalcat @edwilkThe radical left is terrified of competent liberals, like Biden and Clinton. When we liberals make progress, it undermines the claim that only extremism can move us forward.