Post AXNZMY0bGgwckFARTk by lscottspencer@mstdn.social
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(DIR) Post #AXNVammejRIso4BA6y by kmj@mastodon.ctseuro.com
2023-07-05T08:14:26Z
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Basically I #federate with every server, but after reading that #threads will only federate with big instances and smaller ones has to apply for #federation I think the big instances like #mastodon .social and others should block federation till #META will federate with every instance. Otherwise Threads starts with #censorship which is unacceptable. If @Gargron accepts federation with Meta, knowing the try to control Fediverse, I assume this is the beginning of the end.
(DIR) Post #AXNW7LqhtZCMpIbPEW by folkerschamel@mastodon.social
2023-07-05T08:20:18Z
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@kmj Have you more information about #threads federating only with big instances?
(DIR) Post #AXNWnG6TeDV1AXxgVU by kmj@mastodon.ctseuro.com
2023-07-05T08:27:54Z
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@folkerschamel currently not. but, based on independent.ie, it looks like based on the GDPR decission EU data regulation Ireland has not given green light for Threads in Europe.https://www.independent.ie/business/technology/no-instagram-threads-app-in-the-eu-irish-dpc-says-metas-new-twitter-rival-wont-be-launched-here/a1927220337.htmlSo we will see what happens later here in Europe.
(DIR) Post #AXNXFpel3YDZXicZJg by CapitalB@noagendasocial.com
2023-07-05T08:33:05Z
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@folkerschamel @kmj Me too. But I guess this will happen. The Big Guys always collude. otoh - who cares. They'd have to change the protocol. The core has to be supported. The alternatives are already there. Even frugal variants like https://codeberg.org/grunfink/snac2and every App out there supports the same core.
(DIR) Post #AXNZMY0bGgwckFARTk by lscottspencer@mstdn.social
2023-07-05T08:56:39Z
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@kmj Because Meta has not submitted and does not plan to release the app in the EU yet. The initial launch is US and UK only. No one in the EU has rejected the app. That is totally false. @folkerschamel
(DIR) Post #AXNZmt2rg43XW9moE4 by lscottspencer@mstdn.social
2023-07-05T09:01:26Z
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@kmj Why would Meta federate with every instance, when even mastodon.social doesn't? @Gargron
(DIR) Post #AXNa8mXcXVxniVc240 by kmj@mastodon.ctseuro.com
2023-07-05T09:05:25Z
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@lscottspencer It looks like the independent.ie was reporting so one can possible misunderstand things. https://www.msn.com/en-ie/money/technology/no-instagram-threads-app-in-the-eu-irish-dpc-says-metas-new-twitter-rival-wont-be-launched-here/ar-AA1dpxRrthis one states your toot.@folkerschamel
(DIR) Post #AXNaEjihwR5Mhkdb4i by lscottspencer@mstdn.social
2023-07-05T09:06:27Z
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@kmj Clickbait headline. Nothing unusual. @folkerschamel
(DIR) Post #AXNaFohysfJYStoSkC by kmj@mastodon.ctseuro.com
2023-07-05T09:06:41Z
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@lscottspencer This does not mean there is no block possible, but applying for federation at META is unacceptable. @Gargron
(DIR) Post #AXNagBmRipNHYDTcCO by lscottspencer@mstdn.social
2023-07-05T09:11:24Z
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@kmj Those permissions listed are also optional. Google Play Store tags them correctly and in detail. And Threads doesn't need to federate to be successful. Mastodon stays consistently stagnate at 1.4-1.7 million active monthly users. Instagram has 2.5 billion monthly active users. Why are people so convinced that Meta wants Mastodon users info? They could scrape it right now. Their goal is to bury Twitter. Mastodon is not a threat. @Gargron
(DIR) Post #AXNbAyUNBoDDIyhdZ2 by kmj@mastodon.ctseuro.com
2023-07-05T09:17:00Z
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@lscottspencer I have not mentioned IG wants/needs Fediverse data. I said if only big instances federate with Threats and others have to apply at Meta this causes a problem for the fediverse. So to not destroy the Fediverse big instances should help that there is no censorship against smaller instances.@Gargron
(DIR) Post #AXNbPRivIBpg1rPQHI by lscottspencer@mstdn.social
2023-07-05T09:19:36Z
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@kmj That is you saying that the rules should apply differently to Meta. Every instance chooses who they do and do not federate with. Why should Meta handle it any differently? @Gargron
(DIR) Post #AXNcyvy8vrFJvJ0v7Q by kmj@mastodon.ctseuro.com
2023-07-05T09:37:14Z
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@lscottspencer I am generally for allow federation with every instance, block server only if masses of users on this servers are a problem. otherwise only block users. censorship by blocking instances generally is IMHO a problem. @Gargron
(DIR) Post #AXNeiDXCZSCJO3ZKee by lscottspencer@mstdn.social
2023-07-05T09:56:36Z
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@kmj I agree. But, that's not the stance that most Mastodon server admins are taking towards Meta. @Gargron
(DIR) Post #AXNfFLrQdQpOlapULg by kmj@mastodon.ctseuro.com
2023-07-05T10:02:37Z
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@lscottspencer Everybody his own, but I assume that at least some users on every instance will have a friend/want to follow account on Threads. So blocking from Mastodon Instance side is kinda bad idea, because the user unable to follow his threats friends will move to an instance which does not block them. This will then probably blow up big instances like mastodon.social if Threads only federates with the big ones and fully run against decentralization. @Gargron