Post AXMbgEDwXiGhvQxdnU by steeznson@mastodon.social
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 (DIR) Post #AXMaoGYTewYjWApnGK by kaia@brotka.st
       2023-07-04T21:38:07.499169Z
       
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       I think it's understandable that Germans want to try out a right wing extremist party again after the last decades under nominal center or left governments they experienced a lowering standard of living and many issues resulting from climate change, migration and war. not necessarily the fault of the government - just the way the world's going.calling AfD voters Nazis will reinforce their warped perception that they are part of a "resistance" and that AfD will do something differently, will "clean up" or whatever. addressing AfD voters from a perceived moral high ground will destroy any chances to convince them that AfD has no actual solutions.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXMbVKfYEsgWjIg8ye by grillchen@brotka.st
       2023-07-04T21:46:00.225362Z
       
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       @kaia not sure if this is popular. im all in on attacking afd politicians. unless we have a better solution we have to convince afd voters or make them not vote at all... which isnt very democratic.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXMbgEDwXiGhvQxdnU by steeznson@mastodon.social
       2023-07-04T21:47:29Z
       
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       @kaia I completely agree with this sentiment and I see the same thing in the UK. The moment you resort to the ad hominem attack of referring to your opponents as a basket of deplorables or w/e you've lost the argument.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXMbqGMdRMnpSVoMhU by kaia@brotka.st
       2023-07-04T21:49:44.879511Z
       
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       @grillchen I'm fine with attacking the  politicians, but attacking the voters you want to win for democratic parties is not smart :akko_mmh:
       
 (DIR) Post #AXMcHgHRC0ktegSDcO by grillchen@brotka.st
       2023-07-04T21:54:44.435422Z
       
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       @kaia yes! im afraid to many people did not argue with fascists in the past out of principle. now they have forgotten how to do it. i dont believe sonnenberg for example has 52% fascists. but 52% are susceptible to fascist afd politicians. im afraid this is reasonable for all of germany.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXNKI8JFNQUWZMKIHw by grillchen@brotka.st
       2023-07-05T06:07:49.403580Z
       
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       @ageha @kaia there is a phrase "voting is like brushing your teeth, if u dont it will get brown"
       
 (DIR) Post #AXNKSr5ljNqEM88Q6a by kolya@social.cologne
       2023-07-04T22:13:42Z
       
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       @kaia I'm going through a years long phase of disillusionment with leftist politics. I noticed that many people who call themselves leftists are no smarter than anyone in the AfD camp. It's Sturgeon's law at work: 90% of everything is crap, including the left. Although for a long time I didn't notice that. Because I was  crap too. I didn't question, I didn't reason thoroughly. I went with what felt right, made me feel righteous and good.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXNKSrn18aR6WGMxW4 by kolya@social.cologne
       2023-07-04T22:13:46Z
       
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       @kaia And I've lived in Thuringia, I know these stubborn, proud, xenophobic people. I understand that they would vote AfD just to feel righteous and good for sticking it to the man. But feelings are a bad guide in politics, whichever side you're on.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXNKSsSUeNc4atm5AG by kolya@social.cologne
       2023-07-04T22:29:10Z
       
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       @kaia I'd rather chop my arm off than vote for AfD because their ideas are mean and anti-democratic and cost lives. But I see the same lazy self-righteousness on the left that I see with them. And it hurts me more on the left, because that used to be my happy place.Why are we discussing this in English anyway?