Post AXA0aRK2tzWcbwfm8O by supernovae@universeodon.com
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(DIR) Post #AXA0aQMUTPt1dEoDJ2 by supernovae@universeodon.com
2023-06-28T16:21:47Z
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@mastodonmigration @jerry @jarm @kainoa @feditips @atomicpoet @stux @dansup @jessel @oliphant I like the thought of blocking IPs with shared lists like crowdsec because those rules can be expanded to support Fastly/firewalls/cloudflare or whatever edge you wish to use and alleviate pressure on systems when abuse strikes - while also preserving the ability for 3rd party UIs to work and exploration of public timelines without auth (so they can be shared/linked/published as people do so naturally)
(DIR) Post #AXA0aRK2tzWcbwfm8O by supernovae@universeodon.com
2023-06-28T17:27:22Z
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@mastodonmigration @jerry @jarm @kainoa @feditips @atomicpoet @stux @dansup @jessel @oliphant I'm going to champion the opposite too.I'd like to see what we can do to champion connecting to the world and doing so safely - not out of hate for the company but love for fellow human beings.I think we're missing the point when the feature of the fediverse is "use it because you hate something else"When i'd rather it be "use it because you love it".I'm not a pitchfork kind of guy. :)One more important thing I think we need is a community for admins so we can collaborate/discuss and engage as peers not as enemies - and do so with user advocacy in mind.Our users are suffering at the mercy of administrator views when the platform could support agency for both.
(DIR) Post #AXA0aS2MFEyEpNPACe by feditips@mstdn.social
2023-06-28T17:36:51Z
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@supernovae @mastodonmigration @jerry @jarm @kainoa @atomicpoet @stux @dansup @jessel @oliphant The point of the Fediverse is to stop people being hurt.Facebook/Meta has hurt people in the worst ways possible:https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/09/myanmar-facebooks-systems-promoted-violence-against-rohingya-meta-owes-reparations-new-report/There are hundreds of examples like this of Meta/Facebook's amoral behaviour over the past decade or so. There was even a leaked memo where they said they knew it was going on and didn't care:https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanmac/growth-at-any-cost-top-facebook-executive-defended-data#.ff05veQDDxThis attitude is verging on sociopathy.
(DIR) Post #AXA0aSm5VDYB7CngTw by supernovae@universeodon.com
2023-06-28T17:50:09Z
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@feditips @mastodonmigration @jerry @jarm @kainoa @atomicpoet @stux @dansup @jessel @oliphant I don't think you stop people from being hurt by harming them through segregation.You stop people from being hurt by showing a little compassion and empathy.Something that is severely lacking in all of these discussions.Federation does *not* mean we're not upholding our rules and the mastodon covenant.
(DIR) Post #AXA0aTONCsAv1wiG9o by _dmh@tech.lgbt
2023-06-28T18:39:26Z
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@supernovaeEmpathy and compassion are for humans, though, not massive multinational companies. Framing a desire to stay away from corporate social media as "segregation" and harming others is also pretty wild imo.For my own part, I'm hoping I will be able to connect to friends on who use insta and who can't be bothered to try the fedi, but i fully understand the deep mistrust of FB/Meta given their deeply unethical business practices@feditips @mastodonmigration
(DIR) Post #AXA0aUEU57rJdZ5sNk by supernovae@universeodon.com
2023-06-28T18:49:57Z
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@_dmh @feditips @mastodonmigration I've only been talking about the humans.Building a wall to deny a billion people access to talk to us is self isolationist/segregationist.If another word fits better, that's fine. :) sure. it may not be on racial boundaries in the purest sense, but it feels like it's based on the same fears and hate.
(DIR) Post #AXA0e0bkATzoupeWu0 by feditips@mstdn.social
2023-06-28T19:30:55Z
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@mastodonmigration @supernovae @_dmh The Fediverse has always been about servers choosing not to federate with certain other servers. This idea that you must federate with everyone has never been the case, that's why defederation features exist.How bad does Meta have to get before you defederate? Does its algo promoting genocide not move you at all? What about its record-breaking fines for privacy violations?How can you not have a position on this?
(DIR) Post #AXA0e1FRmrkstyEEmu by ohiorob@mastodon.world
2023-06-28T19:35:05Z
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@feditips @mastodonmigration @supernovae @_dmh Tbh I can’t recall that they have done anything positive for the world. Like, all negatives. No positives.
(DIR) Post #AXA0e21etcJtJUmjw0 by supernovae@universeodon.com
2023-06-28T19:37:35Z
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@ohiorob @feditips @mastodonmigration @_dmh My 14 year old started a pet sitting business on meta and bought her first car on meta using money from her pet sitting business and then bought a bounch of classic video game consoles from people meta since her hobby is old video games.with a billion+ people over there - there are probably a lot more people like my kids doing cool shit on meta.
(DIR) Post #AXA0fho72THNBbFOG8 by supernovae@universeodon.com
2023-06-28T19:33:04Z
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@feditips @mastodonmigration @_dmh For the people in the back.It's not about Meta.It's about the people.📣
(DIR) Post #AXA0fiUeUJJ5JX9MZ6 by feditips@mstdn.social
2023-06-28T19:35:38Z
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@supernovae @mastodonmigration @_dmh You're not really listening, you're just repeating a lame excuse that dodges the question.What about the genocide? Doesn't that worry you at all that Amnesty International felt enough concern to publish a special report about Meta/Facebook?
(DIR) Post #AXA0fj5WHEnV9sOo1w by supernovae@universeodon.com
2023-06-28T19:38:17Z
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@feditips @mastodonmigration @_dmh Loaded questions aren't the flex you think they are.
(DIR) Post #AXA0fjvd9UTtlUmQFs by goodenough@universeodon.com
2023-06-28T19:42:05Z
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@supernovae @feditips @mastodonmigration @_dmh How does this response contribute to better understanding, to making your argument?
(DIR) Post #AXA0fkmnxn12QPet8a by supernovae@universeodon.com
2023-06-28T19:45:21Z
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@goodenough @feditips @mastodonmigration @_dmh Not my first rodeo being trapped by loaded questions?I'm just being honest because I am.It's the same type of questioning Jon does - is fedi.tips done by Jon?I guess most sane people would just mute/block and move on, right?Someone said nothing every good came from FB, i spoke of my kids success and that was measured against genocide.seriously, wtf.We're no better than fb/meta if we're willing to abuse each other for less.
(DIR) Post #AXA0nhuIYGwRoPxKlM by feditips@mstdn.social
2023-06-28T19:42:11Z
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@supernovae @mastodonmigration @_dmh I am not "flexing", I am genuinely worried.Why do you think I have run my accounts for the past three years?I set them up as a direct result of concern over Meta's human rights record, and similar issues on other centralised social networks.Now you are suggesting people should be federating with this corporation.
(DIR) Post #AXA0npm5Ih7oDGAt4S by sammydee@universeodon.com
2023-06-28T19:44:31Z
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@feditips @supernovae @mastodonmigration @_dmh So in your opinion there's no value in seeing what Facebook users post? Or in them seeing what you post? Interesting. We need to be uniting people, not dividing them according to your politics or theirs.
(DIR) Post #AXA0nrZkbWRnnaQ47k by feditips@mstdn.social
2023-06-28T19:45:39Z
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@sammydee @supernovae @mastodonmigration @_dmh People are fine, the company is not. If everyone currently using Meta comes over here that's great!But the COMPANY is not great.Allowing that company to have control and influence over the Fediverse is a really, really bad idea. It will cause bad things to happen.
(DIR) Post #AXA0nsKBorau7c99VY by sammydee@universeodon.com
2023-06-28T19:48:07Z
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@feditips @supernovae @mastodonmigration @_dmh We all know that all of their billions of customers aren't going to be here any time soon. Agreed Meta should not control the Fediverse. I can't see any way they can. Influence? Yawn. Everyone has an influence. You can't have it both ways. If Meta's users are to be cut off from the Fediverse then the Fediverse isn't a free and open place. Pick one - a new walled garden run by you, or openness. I vote for openness. Federate with everyone, regardless of YOUR politics. :)
(DIR) Post #AXA0oyS0WoFhPYKM8O by feditips@mstdn.social
2023-06-28T19:50:08Z
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@sammydee @supernovae @mastodonmigration @_dmh "Pick one - a new walled garden run by you, or openness. I vote for openness. Federate with everyone, regardless of YOUR politics. :)"Genocide and human rights abuses are not about politics.If someone thinks there is a legitimate case for them, then they have lost their moral compass completely.A walled garden is where you cannot leave or create your own space, i.e. Facebook/Meta.
(DIR) Post #AXA0oz647sILPn4LZY by sammydee@universeodon.com
2023-06-28T19:52:33Z
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@feditips @supernovae @mastodonmigration @_dmh How someone decided to conflate "Meta" and "Genocide" is a level of mental gymnastics that I cannot comprehend.If the Fediverse is a walled garden where I am locked OUT of communicating with billions of people, the Fediverse is a failure.Let USERS make choices. Not holier-than-thou activists.Y'all are becoming what you hate the most, and y'all might want to think on that a bit.
(DIR) Post #AXA9K8HSpW4yValRNQ by feditips@mstdn.social
2023-06-28T18:58:01Z
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@supernovae @mastodonmigration @jerry @jarm @kainoa @atomicpoet @stux @dansup @jessel @oliphant Segregation? Don't be so ridiculous, people are free to come here. It's the corporation we are shunning, not the people currently forced to use it by the network effect.It's about maintaing a social network that isn't controlled or influenced by Meta.If you federate with Meta, you are encouraging people to stay on Meta. If you defederate, you're encouraging them to try other platforms.
(DIR) Post #AXA9K99hZrSrDo8kuu by nicdex@techhub.social
2023-06-28T19:38:28Z
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@feditips @supernovae @mastodonmigration @jerry @jarm @kainoa @stux @dansup @jessel @oliphant Well that make no sense.You say people are "forced" to use FB/Insta because of the network effect. So they are joining because they can reach the people they want to reach.But somehow, if we federate with P92, which is going to offer a bigger reach/network on the instance that federates, we are encouraging them to stay on Meta. I would argue that it's the inverse, it will show the users on P92 that they have alternatives to Meta where they can also reach the network of people they want to reach.I think this could be a good thing for the Fediverse, as long as we maintain our principles, which we will do. If they don't behave then we can defederate. Blocking them before hand is just keeping the status quo, which is like you said forcing the user to use Meta because of the network effect.
(DIR) Post #AXAQAdqgIvukjwITZY by supernovae@universeodon.com
2023-06-29T00:40:40Z
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@oliphant @gubi @mastodonmigration @jerry @jarm @kainoa @feditips @atomicpoet @stux @dansup @jessel A user is not starting over if they can follow everyone they previously followed.. It’s much different to abandon your graph than to move it and start fresh but still have your previous connections.Meta is fully aware of migrations. 👍
(DIR) Post #AXDmGbfC7gNeAL3Mg4 by Silicanus@the.asbestos.cafe
2023-06-30T15:34:08.544212Z
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@feditips @supernovae @mastodonmigration @_dmh on one hand i don't like how meta is full of normies, but the genocide is kinda based ngl.btw i stand against hatred and bigotry of all forms especially against heterosexuals.cc @meso
(DIR) Post #AXDnjXBhwSnKdYcQT2 by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-06-30T15:50:34.079185Z
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@mastodonmigration @jerry @jarm @kainoa Can you see other user X's posts on the Fediverse? Consult this 4-dimensional heat-graph where half the variables are not known.
(DIR) Post #AXEBkF3xDJdZc2rWpk by Silicanus@the.asbestos.cafe
2023-06-30T20:19:38.430359Z
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@feditips @_dmh @mastodonmigration @meso @supernovae every time asahi makes a post my pp gets hard
(DIR) Post #AXHasCsqHSC7UzRImW by ohiorob@mastodon.world
2023-06-28T19:59:17Z
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@sammydee @feditips @supernovae @mastodonmigration @_dmh PEOPLE CAN SIGN UP FOR FACEBOOK AT FACEBOOK.COMIt’s not segregation. It’s choice.
(DIR) Post #AXHasDdHUnLDp1AOAK by sammydee@universeodon.com
2023-06-28T20:00:50Z
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@ohiorob @feditips @supernovae @mastodonmigration @_dmh And yet in my country "separate but equal is inherently unequal" is a basic belief. Excluding a billion users from the Fediverse because you don't like the company that owns their instance is ... absurd.
(DIR) Post #AXHasEEVGP7DgSa7BQ by ohiorob@mastodon.world
2023-06-28T20:05:07Z
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@sammydee @feditips @supernovae @mastodonmigration @_dmh Oh my God. No one is excluding anyone from the #fediverse. This is about choosing to proactively associate (federate) or not with them once they arrive. No one is telling them NO, they can’t come here.
(DIR) Post #AXHasEzeR6pU2gdlfk by sammydee@universeodon.com
2023-06-28T20:06:22Z
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@ohiorob @feditips @supernovae @mastodonmigration @_dmh Um, if they "come here" but can't interact with others "here" how are they "here"? Building walls in the Fediverse is a bad plan.
(DIR) Post #AXHasFZoGfkjqpYe24 by ohiorob@mastodon.world
2023-06-28T20:09:57Z
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@sammydee @feditips @supernovae @mastodonmigration @_dmh Have you seen the #Fedi blocklists? Omg you will shit when you see the all the walls.
(DIR) Post #AXHasG9c7YOPdsJEq8 by sammydee@universeodon.com
2023-06-28T20:11:22Z
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@ohiorob @feditips @supernovae @mastodonmigration @_dmh Yep, this is a deeply flawed place, with instance owners acting like entitled HOA board members - enforcing their personal beliefs to the detriment of their users and openness. It's likely what will make the Fediverse irrelevant to the masses forever, and a niche and very fragmented place forever. :(
(DIR) Post #AXHasGjPyR25Qv3peC by ohiorob@mastodon.world
2023-06-28T20:14:26Z
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@sammydee @feditips @supernovae @mastodonmigration @_dmh It’s been that way since its conception. And it has only grown. Meta didn’t give 2 shits about Mastodon until Twitter started to burn and the #twittermigration started.
(DIR) Post #AXHasHGNzrP75AUA2C by feditips@mstdn.social
2023-06-28T20:17:24Z
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@ohiorob @sammydee @supernovae @mastodonmigration @_dmh Anyone can set up their own server, it starts from about 10$ a month including a managed host that does all the technical stuff.I have a website telling people how to do it at https://growyourown.servicesIf people are unhappy with how a server is run, they can start their own.It doesn't get more open than that, and it's something that is impossible on centralised networks like Twitter, Facecbook etc.